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before the season started i thought this team would be pretty good
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BRIGGS
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1/11/2006  10:44 PM
but i counted contributions from richardson and james as part of that equation. watching tghis game tonight, not unlike many games show me how opposite my thought process was. the knicks played a great game and very much like many games they play in, Jerome James came in and stagnated things in our middle and we couldnt run effective offense and hes still so slow to respond on the D that hes almost totally ineffective.

I didnt expectthe best from James but this has been just awful.

But I think Q has even been worse and he is my main target for why we have scked. hes been awful from day 1, hes not even 1/3 of the player he was last year and that has been a HUGE HUGE letdown to this team. it hasnt been one game or five games,except for a couple of spots, hes been a detrimant when on the court. its to bad trevor didnt take a step up in play because we are just short a player at the 3. David Lee, nothing bad to say about him, hes been a great energy player, but to expect him to succeed at this position is unfair. Unless hes able to alter his genetics, hes NEVER going to be able to guard more fluid real athletic 3s in this league. he may get better and he sure is not a bad player to have on the floor, but hes not the long term hope at the 3.

Great win, I was almost about to throw up because the majority of the guys played really well and desrved to win, and it almost seemed like Q and James were going to do us in again.
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1/11/2006  11:03 PM
It seems like we've found a way to play around Quentin, so that his troubles don't hurt us as much.

Larry makes his players better and he's telling Q to start over. Play defense hard first, then you'll get confidence in your shot. He should stop thinking that he can jack up threes any more.
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1/11/2006  11:04 PM
he's defending and getting boards, the points will come.
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1/11/2006  11:09 PM
My only criticism right now is that Frye should get more PT.
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1/11/2006  11:10 PM
Played pretty good D on Howard, but he was lost total confidence in his shot. Wow, what a win, I'm exhausted!
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1/11/2006  11:17 PM
Posted by Rich:

My only criticism right now is that Frye should get more PT.

i hate to be critical after a win, especially after 5 wins because we just havent done it in awhile, but the guys played so hard and well, and it seemed like these two guys when they were called in that 4th q just scked it up and let the whole team down again. you see nate robinson who should not have been in the game because he was hurt, no doubt about it, i bet he doesnt even play the next game with what looked like a mean hip pointer[hopefully thats all it is] but there two guys have stagnated the offense all year when called upon. Marbury was right, how can he can assists when guys cant hit shots and thats what was happening. These guys make a LOT of money and they need to play to thei contratcs a little better than the sht they have pulled all season. If somehow someone would offer me a wet tissue and an ending contract for Q I would run for it.
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1/11/2006  11:22 PM
I think Q's defense makes him valueable to us. JJ was completely useless though.
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1/11/2006  11:39 PM
With the new team, injuries, and the death of his brother, I can't blame Q for struggling early this year, I still think he can be a good player for us but I definitely wouldn't be opposed to trading him for an upgrade at SF.
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1/11/2006  11:46 PM
Posted by Knight:

With the new team, injuries, and the death of his brother, I can't blame Q for struggling early this year, I still think he can be a good player for us but I definitely wouldn't be opposed to trading him for an upgrade at SF.


I wish there was some way to get ruben patterson here to play SF but it doesnt appear like it can happen
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1/11/2006  11:48 PM
He waved his hands well in the final minute when they were inbounding the ball and had a nice hard foul on Stackhouse.
Posted by SlimPack:

I think Q's defense makes him valueable to us. JJ was completely useless though.

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1/11/2006  11:48 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

David Lee, nothing bad to say about him, hes been a great energy player, but to expect him to succeed at this position is unfair. Unless hes able to alter his genetics, hes NEVER going to be able to guard more fluid real athletic 3s in this league. he may get better and he sure is not a bad player to have on the floor, but hes not the long term hope at the 3.

You saying the Cracker can't guard a brother?
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1/11/2006  11:54 PM
Posted by Nalod:
Posted by BRIGGS:

David Lee, nothing bad to say about him, hes been a great energy player, but to expect him to succeed at this position is unfair. Unless hes able to alter his genetics, hes NEVER going to be able to guard more fluid real athletic 3s in this league. he may get better and he sure is not a bad player to have on the floor, but hes not the long term hope at the 3.

You saying the Cracker can't guard a brother?

How about he's 6-9 240 and plays a true 4 and cant handle guys who are 6-5---6-8 with true 3 agility. He cant alter his size or lateral mobility.
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1/12/2006  12:15 AM
Jerome James showed his only value tonight: guarding the inbounds pass with 1 second left.

Q has decent value as a rebounder, perimeter defender (Ariza isn't strong enough to do it yet). If he finds his shot, he'll be a solid rotation player.

I don't know, are there are small forward options anywhere in the league right now that we could get for the expiring deals? I don't think there are. Maybe something reasonable will present itself at the trade deadline when the playoff picture is a little clearer and teams realize they're out of it.

but one of this team's strenghts is definitely it's ability to go three guard with Nate, Craw and Marbury. They were all exhausted by the end after playing a back to back, but they played smart ball.

[Edited by - crzymdups on 01-12-2006 12:17 AM]
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1/12/2006  12:31 AM
Posted by crzymdups:

Jerome James showed his only value tonight: guarding the inbounds pass with 1 second left.

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1/12/2006  12:43 AM
Even though not all did it with a true heart I am glad to see Game get his for his inbounds defense. The man has the heart of a lion. Didn't take him long to be true to his word about carrying this team on his shoulders!
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1/12/2006  12:46 AM
And did you see his body language when covering the inbound? Perfect form, not a hint of scowl.
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1/12/2006  12:48 AM
Posted by martin:

And did you see his body language when covering the inbound? Perfect form, not a hint of scowl.

That's called Leadership. Wouldn't be surprised to see him named Player of the Week.
before the season started i thought this team would be pretty good

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