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djsunyc
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1/9/2006  9:17 PM 

                        ppg   ast  reb  fg%   3fg%  ft%   to   stl  min
#3  deron williams      10.9  4.6  2.8  38.8  32.7  70.4  2.1  0.8  29.3
    as a starter        11.2  5.5  3.4  38.1  32.8  72.4  2.4  1.0  32.9

#4  chris paul          16.3  7.4  5.8  44.6  30.7  79.4  2.3  2.2  36.2

#5  raymond felton       7.0  3.8  2.5  31.5  30.0  66.7  1.7  1.2  21.5
    as a starter        12.3  5.3  3.9  38.8  33.3  66.7  2.7  2.0  34.6     

#21 nate robinson        9.0  1.8  2.9  41.4  48.3  64.9  1.7  0.6  20.0
    nate as a starter   12.9  2.9  4.4  44.2  54.8  65.1  2.9  1.0  30.3


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McK1
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1/9/2006  9:24 PM


3 point guards and Nate


the stop underrating David Lee movement 1. FIRE MIKE 2. HIRE MULLIN 3. PAY AVERY 4. FREE NATE!!!
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1/9/2006  9:33 PM
The 4.4 rebs are very impressive. He'll catch Curry soon.
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1/9/2006  9:57 PM
as well as the 3pt shooting, its a very important weapon
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1/9/2006  10:22 PM
wow. That's great. Wonder how much more he woulda developed if we hadn't been starting Q the whole time.
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1/9/2006  10:27 PM
Posted by McK1:



3 point guards and Nate

I think his point is that if you blindly look at stats, you have no clue which were early lottery picks and which was a late 1st rd pick.
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1/9/2006  10:28 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by McK1:



3 point guards and Nate

I think his point is that if you blindly look at stats, you have no clue which were early lottery picks and which was a late 1st rd pick.

Except for Paul.
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1/9/2006  10:29 PM
Posted by Rich:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by McK1:



3 point guards and Nate

I think his point is that if you blindly look at stats, you have no clue which were early lottery picks and which was a late 1st rd pick.

Except for Paul.

Yeah that's what I meant
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1/9/2006  10:48 PM
And how many shooting guards that actually play were taken in the 1st round this year? He is just comparing Nate to other high profile guards.
A glimmer of hope maybe?!?
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1/10/2006  1:33 AM
I believe Nate's stats are skewed a bit by the fact that it's still early in the season. His 3 pt.FG% will almost certainly come down, and his FT % and assists will go up -- in other words, his stats will start to look more like the others.

The big question for me is whether his defense will come around. He has the tools to be a dominant, ball hawking defensive player. But we only see it once in a while. No one should be able to drive by him, and it should be a real pain in the ass just to dribble the ball up the court against him. If his D comes around, he'll be a very valuable player and a steal at 21.
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1/10/2006  10:23 AM
Posted by simrud:

And how many shooting guards that actually play were taken in the 1st round this year? He is just comparing Nate to other high profile guards.

Luther Head. Salim went 31st.

the other 2 sgs that went in the first were McCants and Hodge. Those 2 get little burn.

Comparing Nate to 3 pgs is pointless. Nate can't run a team, they can. Nate is paid to put points on the board.

You want a bonafide comparison, compare him to Salim and Luther.


the stop underrating David Lee movement 1. FIRE MIKE 2. HIRE MULLIN 3. PAY AVERY 4. FREE NATE!!!
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1/10/2006  10:28 AM
> I believe Nate's stats are skewed a bit by the fact that it's still early in the season. His 3 pt.FG% will almost certainly come down, and his FT % and assists will go up -- in other words, his stats will start to look more like the others.

bernard - how can you predict how Nate's 3 point stats will drop? During warmups in Atlalnta, Nate was draining three's with either hand in between unabated dancing to Laffy Taffy.

What are you basing your opinion on?
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1/10/2006  10:44 AM
Posted by misterearl:

> I believe Nate's stats are skewed a bit by the fact that it's still early in the season. His 3 pt.FG% will almost certainly come down, and his FT % and assists will go up -- in other words, his stats will start to look more like the others.

bernard - how can you predict how Nate's 3 point stats will drop? During warmups in Atlalnta, Nate was draining three's with either hand in between unabated dancing to Laffy Taffy.

What are you basing your opinion on?


I was going to say something similar, but he can't shoot 54% for the rest of the season. Even 48% is high.
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1/12/2006  2:26 PM
Posted by misterearl:

> I believe Nate's stats are skewed a bit by the fact that it's still early in the season. His 3 pt.FG% will almost certainly come down, and his FT % and assists will go up -- in other words, his stats will start to look more like the others.

bernard - how can you predict how Nate's 3 point stats will drop? During warmups in Atlalnta, Nate was draining three's with either hand in between unabated dancing to Laffy Taffy.

What are you basing your opinion on?

Sorry for the slow response -- haven't had time to ck site in a couple of days. First off, nobody shoots 54% for 3's, like Franco said. Second, I think Nate's a good but streaky shooter. Not a great, pure shooter. Why? Just from watching him play, watching his form, the fact that he isn't automatic from the FT line, and the fact that he hasn't spent his life in a gym or driveway shooting balls. Guy was playing football. He doesn't have an Allen Houston/Del Curry/Ray Allen-type stroke. But my point isn't to drag him down. He doesn't need to shoot 55% or 45% for that matter from 3. He needs to to what he's doing, bring energy, break guys down off the dribble, get loose balls, etc. He also needs to get better on D, especially against the pick and roll.
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