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BRIGGS
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1/8/2006  9:31 AM
They must know about Tyrus Thomas by now, although if he comes out hes not going to be in anywhere near our pick. Im glad they saw Hilton who showed a lot in the second half after sitting with fouls. Hilton Josh or Marcus Williams would be great late round picks.

I dont think were going to be in the area code for brandan roy. i watched them last night and he went off again, he looks higher than a 29 pick, no doubt about it, hes driving up the charts.
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1/8/2006  9:42 AM
Knicks can always trade up or trade for more draft picks like last year. They're hardly locked in the late 20s.
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1/8/2006  10:10 AM
I would package Ariza and the Spurs pick to move a little in the draft.
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1/8/2006  10:12 AM
Posted by King1:

I would package Ariza and the Spurs pick to move a little in the draft.

it's possible we may see ariza used in a deal at the deadline to sweeten the pot (since we have no more picks to throw in).
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1/8/2006  11:03 AM
King1, I told you about Denham brown. he's way to inconsistent and he cant play through injury. The guy I really like on the Huskies is Marcus Williams. He played with a fever and strep throat his first two games,and yesterday he was still able to do things at will despite being about 50%. He reminds me of a Marc Jackson but with a shot. 13 pts 6 a 5 reb in 23 minutes, getting into the lane at will, hitting big shots[although he mised two big ft] i just love this guy. hes about 6-3 210 and like Jackson, changes the tempo of the game. Always has his head up, always looking to throw a pass towards the basket or open man. Hes not the most athletic PG, but I think this guy is the best fundamental PG in America.

As for lSU, jees Glenn Davis is the most agile 6-7 300 pounder I think Ive ever seen. He has a little zach Randolph in him, if he continues to lose weight, he'll get his chance in the next 2 years. Spin dribble right or left, soft touch--hes a LOAD and moves his body like he weighed 225.

Tyrus Thomas, I posted about him last month, very impressed with his rebounding, shot blocking--he was literally taking balls out of the air two feet above the rim. He an absolute Swift clone, its weird because its the same school. hes going top 7-8, no doubt about that. But like Swift, when Armstrong who is two+inches taller and 250 pounds got him on his hip in the post, it was money every time. Hilton has a lot of upside.
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1/8/2006  11:16 AM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by King1:

I would package Ariza and the Spurs pick to move a little in the draft.

it's possible we may see ariza used in a deal at the deadline to sweeten the pot (since we have no more picks to throw in).



Trevor Ariza is a FA, I doubt he will be a conduit to moving up when a team could possibly sign him for no compensation.

I think the Knicks can really improve their team WITHOUT a lottery pick. There are numerous players that will land between 15-35 that will have high talent/potential thresholds+there are a number of quality seniors who are ready to go. Im kind of moving awya from the potential player like Ariza, Id rather draft a guy who you can see more bonafides and skills.

If we save our money by letting these contracts expire, maybe Dolan will allow Isiah to buy one extra pick in both rounds. If we can do a 75% replication of what we did this year, nto only will it help control costs long term, but look at the long term effect these kids are going to have on the franchise. I like the idea of spending a 4 yr MLE on Mike James maybe with a team 5th year option, but another infusion of quality youth[maybe 2-3 guys] and our core should be close to done for years. On top of it, when you hold a lot of quality young guys, iy gives you better leeway to make a trade for a BIG time player like a kG:>)
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1/8/2006  11:25 AM
I think there's a good chance the Raptors would beat a 4 year MLE offer that we gave James. They need to put together as strong a team as possible to try to convince Bosh to re-sign with them. Losing James for nothing to free agency when they could re-sign him to a very fair MLE deal wouldn't bode well for them.
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1/8/2006  11:31 AM
i dont see what the big deal is over James. Hes 30, going on 31 and probably stepping it up in his contract year. Plus hes currently gettting 30+minutes. He wouldnt come here to be a backup getting minimal minutes behind steph when he could probably be a starter elsewhere. What would this mean for Nates and JCs minutes? To me, this would be like the JJ signing, pointless because it gets in the way of our promising youth.
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1/8/2006  11:43 AM
Posted by jaydh:

i dont see what the big deal is over James. Hes 30, going on 31 and probably stepping it up in his contract year. Plus hes currently gettting 30+minutes. He wouldnt come here to be a backup getting minimal minutes behind steph when he could probably be a starter elsewhere. What would this mean for Nates and JCs minutes? To me, this would be like the JJ signing, pointless because it gets in the way of our promising youth.

Im sure Nate will be a work in progress for the next couple of years. Hes a guy who is meant to be a spark plug. Mike James and jerome James--give me a break! Mike James is under-rated and in his pure prime. Because he didnt log big minutes early in his career, he easily has 3 to 4 top years left.
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1/8/2006  11:49 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by jaydh:

i dont see what the big deal is over James. Hes 30, going on 31 and probably stepping it up in his contract year. Plus hes currently gettting 30+minutes. He wouldnt come here to be a backup getting minimal minutes behind steph when he could probably be a starter elsewhere. What would this mean for Nates and JCs minutes? To me, this would be like the JJ signing, pointless because it gets in the way of our promising youth.

Im sure Nate will be a work in progress for the next couple of years. Hes a guy who is meant to be a spark plug. Mike James and jerome James--give me a break! Mike James is under-rated and in his pure prime. Because he didnt log big minutes early in his career, he easily has 3 to 4 top years left.

i'm not comparing the talent, i'm just comparing their use. People want Butler and Frye getting minutes before James, and I see it the same with JC and Nate getting minutes before MikeJames. Even if nate is still a work in progress, wont this hinder his progress?
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1/8/2006  11:53 AM
MLE should go to Fred Jones
the stop underrating David Lee movement 1. FIRE MIKE 2. HIRE MULLIN 3. PAY AVERY 4. FREE NATE!!!
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1/8/2006  12:02 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

They must know about Tyrus Thomas by now, although if he comes out hes not going to be in anywhere near our pick. Im glad they saw Hilton who showed a lot in the second half after sitting with fouls. Hilton Josh or Marcus Williams would be great late round picks.

I dont think were going to be in the area code for brandan roy. i watched them last night and he went off again, he looks higher than a 29 pick, no doubt about it, hes driving up the charts.
Excellent point about Roy. I mentioned him a while back in my thread "06' knick draft picks" He's on fire and def looks like a middle of forst round pick and may shoot a little higher. Don't know if that Rose trade is still on the table because I'd so it just for the pick. Just to get a shot at Roy, or Williams.

Thomas def. looks llike a lottery pick and is a better shot blocker at this point than Swift, but they are similar. Armstrong is a guy that might noyt even be there at 28-29. He has great physical tools and I can see him really shooting up the charts once scouts seem him in Chicago at an NBA camp. He doesn't get enough time in Uconn, but once the shackles off....

great post Briggs!
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1/8/2006  6:17 PM
Ariza is tough to give up on but he could be the key to a deal if we're going to make one. He just doen't look like he's improved at all at his ball-handling. His shooting is better, but not by much. You look at how much Lee has changed his game during the season and wonder why Ariza can't do the same.

He still makes more hustle plays than anyone on the team though.

Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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1/8/2006  6:52 PM
You look at how much Lee has changed his game during the season and wonder why Ariza can't do the same.

How much has Lee changed his game? Word is his shot is better, but we don't know for sure because he didn't get the time until recently. He seems to be making his J's now, but he still is frequently reluctant to shoot from the outside. Other than that, he seems to be the same: An athletic, intense, rebounder and hustler, and a smart player.

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[Edited by - oohah on 01-08-2006 6:52 PM]
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1/8/2006  6:53 PM
I haven't seen Brandon Roy play but the scouting report made him sound really nice. Who does he remind you of?
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1/8/2006  6:55 PM
I dunno he has hit his j for 3 games now, so I think its fare to say he has worked on it and it is paying dividents, while Ariza still has no semblance of a touch.

To Ariza's defense, Lee is older by what 2-3 years? He has had much more time to develop an outsie shot.

Besides, Ariza really doenst have to be a shooter. Like Brown said, rebound, defend, and be a slasher.
A glimmer of hope maybe?!?
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1/8/2006  6:57 PM
David Lee plays within himself. He's a hardworking player, with a high BBall IQ. Trevor Ariza just looks confused out there half of the time.
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1/8/2006  7:01 PM
I dunno he has hit his j for 3 games now, so I think its fare to say he has worked on it and it is paying dividents, while Ariza still has no semblance of a touch.
To Ariza's defense, Lee is older by what 2-3 years? He has had much more time to develop an outsie shot.

Besides, Ariza really doenst have to be a shooter. Like Brown said, rebound, defend, and be a slasher.

If you are responding to my post, I am not comparing Lee to Ariza. I am just saying that I don't see that Lee is a different player from the start of the season, with the possible exception of improving his outside shot.

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Ariza doesn't have to be a shooter, but improving his shot would open up the lanes for him exploit his special ability to slash and finish strong, making him so much more dangerous.

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[Edited by - oohah on 01-08-2006 7:01 PM]
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1/8/2006  7:14 PM
Posted by realhiphop:

I haven't seen Brandon Roy play but the scouting report made him sound really nice. Who does he remind you of?

Off the top of my head he reminds me a little bit of Mo Pete. 6'6 nicely proportioned athlete who slashes to the basket well and looks to throw it down. Has somewhat of low release on his jumper but its suprisingly accurate. He even shoots mid-range fadeaways from time to time. He would fit nicely on this Knick roster at the 2.
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1/8/2006  7:44 PM
Is he starter material? How's Bobby Jones on that team? Did Roy start with Nate in the backcourt last year?
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