Posted by ClydeDaGlide:

Posted by Vmart:

The Cavs don't want to max Miller out so why would the get a player Houston that is already Maxed out. Cavs are looking to move Miller at his current salary to avoid getting players that are maxed out. Cavs don't think any players out there are as good as Miller for the that price, which is holding up any deal.

They would take Houston because they would be getting rid of their one maxed out player, Illgauskas...HARDCOREKNICKFAN- thanks for the support...

Posted by fishmike:

I think the Knicks deal with the Clippers and Cavs is more likely. NO doesnt sound ready to trade Baron, least of all to the Knicks. Hoopsworld posted a rumor where the Knick send Houston to the Cavs, the Cavs send Illgauskus to the Knicks and Dre Miller to the Clips, and the Clips send Odom to the Knicks, and Wilcox to the Cavs. The Knicks may have to include cash, picks or a guy like Harrington to make the money work, but off all the deals I heard this one sounds most feasible. If I am any of those teams I make that trade.

Posted by Vmart:

Posted by fishmike:

I think the Knicks deal with the Clippers and Cavs is more likely. NO doesnt sound ready to trade Baron, least of all to the Knicks. Hoopsworld posted a rumor where the Knick send Houston to the Cavs, the Cavs send Illgauskus to the Knicks and Dre Miller to the Clips, and the Clips send Odom to the Knicks, and Wilcox to the Cavs. The Knicks may have to include cash, picks or a guy like Harrington to make the money work, but off all the deals I heard this one sounds most feasible. If I am any of those teams I make that trade.

That is a great deal The Knicks get Odoms and Z that works. That helps Knicks get bigger and they get players that play their respective positions. Allowing Spree to move back to the SG position.

Posted by killacross:

Here is a crazy deal that passed through my mind...

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ny trades- Ward, Eisely, AH, othella, knight (33 mil)
ny gets- odom, davis, pip (32 mil)

port trades- wells (sign and trade), davis, pip, randolph (29 + wells)
port gets- AH, zydrunas, Wilcox, ward, (33 mil)

cle trades- miller, zydrunas (15 mil)
cle gets- wells, randolph, easily, othella, knight (12 mil +wells)

Clippers trade- odom, wilcox (5 mil)
clippers get- miller (2.5 mil)
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with the contract of wells and fillers like steve kerr and others this trade could work numbers wise. Chances of this happening are very very very slim.

We would do it b/c we get rid of AH's contract and get odom. Although Davis and pip make an absurd amount of money, their contracts expire after this year. Davis could play center, then we could use our expection to sign a pg

This is the trade the clippers discussed earlier (odom/wilcox=miller) so i am assuming they would go through w/ it.

Clev would do this trade to get rid of zydrunas' contract and get good young players. Hoping that wells can be the next paul pierce w/ enough shots and minutes while getting a pg to help tutor wagner.

Portland would get a very good sg to play along side derek anderson in a smaller lineup(wallace needs a top shooter to free him up). They also get a center who when healthy, is a top 5 center in the nba. Wilcox is an top prospect.

Posted by ClydeDaGlide:

Hey, I'm not arguing with that. Odom has a shot at becoming a superstar, and getting rid of Houston? Thats just icing on the cake...

Posted by dmeesq:

I've got a real feeling that a trade is brewing under the radar screen. All the talk about trading Spree is a smokescreen. If they can avoid it, the Knicks will retain Spree since he is virtually their only fast break, open court player.

I see a trade with the Nets coming down, with the Nts sending Van Horn and Kittles out. Allan Houston would fit perfectly because he's a deadly shooter who will get great looks with a Kidd led offense.

Knicks do this because 1)they realize that Houston will never lead them to the promised land, 2) realize that they way overpaid and went out way too long on Houston's contract, 3)acquire a good scoring, tall small forward who is a decent rebounder who replaces Houston's skill as an outside shooter, 4) enables Spree to move back to SG where he belongs, and 5) NY gets a very good, very up tempo SG in Kittles who can relieve Spree.

While I realize Van Horn will never meet the expectations that the Nets had origianlly hoped for, he would be a good fit for this Knick team if he can toughen up and not let the crowd get on his case.