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Hollinger says Sweetney and Curry are the "same player"? wtf?
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crzymdups
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1/4/2006  5:24 PM
John Hollinger said:
You're absolutely right. This is a legitimate, undeniable strength of Thomas, which makes it even more maddening that he would trade his next two No. 1 picks to get the same player he already had in Sweetney. I presume you're writing this in reference to Lee's big game against Phoenix -- it's puzzled me that he hadn't been in the rotation sooner instead of all the veteran dead wood Brown keeps trotting out there.


I'm sorry, but this is patently ridiculous. For one thing, Chicago has been steadily reducing Sweetney's minutes, bringing him off the bench and actually benched him against the Suns.


Meanwhile, Curry dominates the Suns it OT and is a big part of the win.

Aside from recent trends, this comparison strikes me as absurd. Curry is huge. He's definitely 6'10" at least and has tremendous lift and quickness and hands for a big man. He is almost unguardable with single coverage. Basically, if you can't draw a charge on him in the paint, he's scoring on you.

Sweetney's main offense in the post is to hope to get fouled.

Their points and rebounds per 40 minutes are close this year, but Curry has a sizable advantage in PER (18.4 to 15.5) and he's just a much tougher cover.

Also, I think it's telling that Chicago is in it's worst stretch of the season and the way they've decided to come out of it is to bench Sweetney.

Sorry, it just pissed me off that Hollinger would say something so blatantly false.
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1/4/2006  5:38 PM
Hollinger is an accountant who can't see past the numbers. He doesn't understand basketball at all. its all figures to him.
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1/4/2006  5:42 PM
well u see...now that u bought this up, some ppl..i wont mention names wills ay curry dominated a guy named burke throughout the OT....but lets be real here, In that OT curry had way more pep in his step and wasnt looking tired from palying 45 mins.

Im sorry but Sweets isnt as good as curry, if he was than whats he doin on the bench now?

We went through a 7 game losing streak not too while ago and chicago is going through the same, i've read and saw 1st hand that many bulls fan miss curry because he provided offense when now chandler isnt worth the money he's getting and sweets is off the bench or in some cases not seeing any minutes at all.

Hollinger will never give us props because he hates us, only thing he did give props to is his drafting skills.

All in all, i say if curry can stay in shape he has a bright future in the league all he needs is to stay in tip top condition and play good on a consistent basis
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1/4/2006  5:45 PM
sweetney's the second coming of elton brand's younger cousin who's not as talented or athletic.
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1/4/2006  6:24 PM
Posted by TMS:

sweetney's the second coming of elton brand's younger cousin who's not as talented or athletic.

if Sweets worked as HARD as Elton on his game and weight, he would be MUCH better.
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1/4/2006  6:54 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by TMS:

sweetney's the second coming of elton brand's younger cousin who's not as talented or athletic.

if Sweets worked as HARD as Elton on his game and weight, he would be MUCH better.

To me, what makes Brand better to begin with is the fact that he actually makes progress when he works on his own weight and game and Sweetney doesn't. No disrespect to Sweets but it is what it is.

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1/4/2006  7:55 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by TMS:

sweetney's the second coming of elton brand's younger cousin who's not as talented or athletic.

if Sweets worked as HARD as Elton on his game and weight, he would be MUCH better.


& what basis do you have to make such a statement? Elton Brand was an overall #1 pick... obviously scouts saw huge potential in him coming out of college... that's like me saying if Paul Pierce worked on his game as hard as Michael Jordan, he'd be a much better player... you can't quantify that type of statement because it has zero basis of proof... you have to judge a player on what he actually does on the court, not on what you think he can do if he only worked harder on his game & conditioning.
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1/4/2006  8:03 PM
^wow I didnt even know that the words "quantify" and "basis of proof" could be used that way. very eloquant

but anyway I think curry is the better player than sweetney, that will be obvious to anyone who watches both of them play, and will become more obviouse as more time passes by. but for the record, Im against the eddy curry trade, but lets see how it works out.
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1/4/2006  8:30 PM
Sweetney acknowledged that it made sense to trade him for Curry. Sweetney himself said it.

They are in two different worlds, impact wise, I don't care what the stats say.

Curry is a matchup nightmare for every big in the league not named Shaq. Sweetney is a solid role player. End of discussion.
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1/4/2006  8:35 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by martin:
Posted by TMS:

sweetney's the second coming of elton brand's younger cousin who's not as talented or athletic.

if Sweets worked as HARD as Elton on his game and weight, he would be MUCH better.


& what basis do you have to make such a statement? Elton Brand was an overall #1 pick... obviously scouts saw huge potential in him coming out of college... that's like me saying if Paul Pierce worked on his game as hard as Michael Jordan, he'd be a much better player... you can't quantify that type of statement because it has zero basis of proof... you have to judge a player on what he actually does on the court, not on what you think he can do if he only worked harder on his game & conditioning.

oh, my words were sloppy, what I meant by it was that if Sweets worked as hard as Elton at his game and lost some weight, SWEETS would be much better for it (not that he would be much better than Elton).
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1/4/2006  8:43 PM
gotcha... simple misunderstanding.
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1/4/2006  8:49 PM
Sweetney and Curry are the same player, occupying two different physical spaces? Like, wow, man. That means that SweetneyCurry is collecting TWO NBA salaries and playing for TWO different teams. Aren't there rules against that sort of thing?

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1/12/2006  7:15 PM
Sweetney seems to be balooning quite nicely once again as the Chicago writers are questioning his ability to play more than 10 minutes at a time.

And I like Mike Sweetney.

But Eddy Curry cannot be stopped inside. One he learns to pass out of the double team intuitively and measure his opponents on defense, who's gonna stop him?

Did I mention he's only 23 years old?



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1/12/2006  7:30 PM
I for one was not in favor of the trade. I loved Sweetney; couldn't stand Curry.

I still love Sweetney - but I've done a 180 on Curry! I'm loving this trade now. Eddy gives us an entirely different dimension. We're going to be a legitimate team soon, and a big part of it is Eddy in the middle. Even something as potentially easy to overlook as his free throws - the guy has been a confident killer at the line. And with his bulk, nimbleness and offensive-mindedness, his ability to hit FT's is just huge.
Hollinger says Sweetney and Curry are the "same player"? wtf?

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