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djsunyc
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1/2/2006  9:38 AM
hey killa, this one's for you...and look, lb wants steph to score more...
by marc berman

January 2, 2006 -- They're speaking!

Knicks coach Larry Brown revealed he and Stephon Marbury finally had an airing-out session regarding last Wednesday's fiasco in Orlando in which the point guard looked completely disinterested. The conversation was the first sign of a thaw in their frosty feud.

Against the Magic, Marbury shot 0 for 7, with three assists. Brown ripped the performance, saying his point guard was afraid to shoot. Marbury dug in his heels, responding defiantly that he played the right way in deferring to his hotter teammates such as Eddy Curry.

Their relationship turned to ice during two days in Milwaukee, as they avoided speaking to one another Thursday and Friday. Marbury was furious that Brown ripped him to the beat writers but didn't talk to him privately.

In Friday's game against the Bucks, Marbury responded with a brilliant outing, dishing out a season-high 12 assists with 23 points. But Brown and Marbury didn't look at each other the two times Marbury came out of the game.

On Saturday, when the club held an optional workout, Marbury arrived at the Westchester facility and Brown finally broke the ice.

"I talked to him about it [Saturday]," said Brown, whose Knicks host the Suns and Steve Nash tonight at the Garden. "He got to take shots. The more aggressive he is looking to take shots, the better he becomes.



"I thought he was great [in Milwaukee]. And I told him. I want him to get as many good shots as he can and that will open it up for everybody else. It wasn't a sit-down. I coach him. We talked about it. I reiterated to him he can't take seven a game."

The relationship between the coach and captain is the biggest issue of this 7-21 wreckage. If they are not getting along, Brown will have no chance of making Marbury into a winning player.

Marbury, who made a desperate plea Thursday not to be traded, accepted the criticism but stuck to his guns. He said the difference between Milwaukee and Orlando was not about him, but the defense.

"I was aggressive the other night," Marbury said. "The way the flow of the game was in Orlando, it didn't play out the same way. Every game is different. Every game isn't the same as far as the way they were guarding me, the way they guarded Eddy [Curry].

"[The Magic] were playing behind Eddy on the post. Normally teams are in front of Eddy. For us, the way we played against Orlando was a total difference than against Milwaukee. The ball bounced different off the rim than it did against Orlando."

Last New Year's Eve, Marbury made his boast about being "the best point guard in the world," after which the Knicks lost 17 of 19 games. Reminded of the well-publicized remark yesterday, Marbury said, "No comment."

When asked if he still believed it, he said: "No comment. That's last year's news."

Ironically, Marbury goes up against his former team tonight and his Phoenix replacement Nash, widely regarded as the game's best point guard. Marbury is probably tired of hearing about Nash.

In fact, Marbury took a noticeable dig at Nash, when asked if he's the toughest challenge to defend.

"I would probably say Baron Davis and Gilbert Arenas right now, because Gilbert is playing well and he's getting up a lot of [shot] attempts," Marbury said. "Steve Nash is hard to guard because they set a lot of picks for him. But individually . . . far as scoring, it's not that difficult to really guard him. It makes it difficult because he has a lot of guys who can shoot the ball."
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McK1
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1/2/2006  9:57 AM
"Steve Nash is hard to guard because they set a lot of picks for him. But individually . . . far as scoring, it's not that difficult to really guard him. It makes it difficult because he has a lot of guys who can shoot the ball."


Dumbbury is just asking for Nash to come in here and get 30 15 & 7 boards.

The schedule makers know the guy is going to say something dumb to incite the game's best. Last year: I am the best pg right before Kidd comes to the Garden on New Years, this year Nash is an easy guard.

when wil h learn

ps
for the dummies who will say Steph is right, Nash can't score:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/basketball/nba/specials/playoffs/2005/playoffs.schedule/
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1/2/2006  10:40 AM
For the dummies blinded by hate:
1. Nash goes around screens strictly, he cannot take you off the dribble. one-on-one he really isn't a tough guard, watch the games.
2.Thanks for posting some playoff schedule. This isn't the playoffs, every great player's stats go up in the playoffs.
3. Lets bet he doesn't put those numbers up. Hater.
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1/2/2006  10:51 AM
Yes, let's all watch tonight. In my view - Steve Nash can get his shot off anytime against any guard. From the outside or down low. Let's watch tonight and dind out, though the degree of defense the Knick guards will present will hardly be a measure.

No, i haven't become a hater for the New Year I just think that Nash right now is playing at a superior level, and when a point guard is doing that it's a joy to behold. From a basketball purist standpoint. And interestingly I think Steph was there last yesr during our 16-13 start.

Now as far as Steph's comments re: Nash, of course you cringe a little when you read them but I still maintain they're meaningless. just as his comments last year were meaningless, regardless of their timing in the season's downfall. Yeah in some ways it would be better to be politically correct and just praise evey other player brought up to you, but if you speak honestly instead so be it, the games are won on the court, not through the papers or on clippings in lockerrooms.
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1/2/2006  11:08 AM
Posted by Killa4luv:

For the dummies blinded by hate:
1. Nash goes around screens strictly, he cannot take you off the dribble. one-on-one he really isn't a tough guard, watch the games.
2.Thanks for posting some playoff schedule. This isn't the playoffs, every great player's stats go up in the playoffs.
3. Lets bet he doesn't put those numbers up. Hater.



you should take your own advice and watch the games.

that way when you see Nash beating every Knick guard down the court for easy buckets or freezing Mope-bury with the cross and burying long J's in his dumb grill, you won't be suprised and back up this uninformed post with 10 more in the game leads.

and as far as "betting" where were you on the last over/under when Joe and Al shattered the gracious "24 apiece" b/4 the half
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1/2/2006  11:11 AM
funniest thing about this:

the remark about Nash comes from a guy who calls 50 high screens a game

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1/2/2006  11:22 AM
2.Thanks for posting some playoff schedule. This isn't the playoffs, every great player's stats go up in the playoffs.

no surprise then that steph's go down.

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1/2/2006  11:24 AM
I also love Quitbury's hypocrisy on the Orlando game, where he said he only took three shots in the first 36 minutes cause Curry and JC were going off, yet he only logged three assists for the game cause his teammates weren't hitting their shots.
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1/2/2006  11:26 AM
Posted by McK1:

funniest thing about this:

the remark about Nash comes from a guy who calls 50 high screens a game


Who LB? The funniest thing is that you don't even know who calls the plays on your favorite team. CLASSIC!!!



[Edited by - Killa4luv on 01-02-2006 11:26 AM]
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1/2/2006  11:30 AM
Posted by Killa4luv:

For the dummies blinded by hate:
1. Nash goes around screens strictly, he cannot take you off the dribble. one-on-one he really isn't a tough guard, watch the games.
2.Thanks for posting some playoff schedule. This isn't the playoffs, every great player's stats go up in the playoffs.
3. Lets bet he doesn't put those numbers up. Hater.

I have to disagree with you here, nash is really good at finding subtle ways to fake the defense out, nash could probably score more ppg if he wanted to, but he doesnt want to. although it is true that numbers go up in the playoffs though, but still steve nash can take marbury off of the dribble pretty easily, not becuase he's fast he, but because he is so good at manipulating the defense that he can do it on just about every possession of he wants. obviously he wont score 48 points but he can drop 28 and 9 on any team at any given time.

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1/2/2006  11:45 AM
Posted by BlueSeats:

I also love Quitbury's hypocrisy on the Orlando game, where he said he only took three shots in the first 36 minutes cause Curry and JC were going off, yet he only logged three assists for the game cause his teammates weren't hitting their shots.

did you watch that game? thats how it looked to me
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1/2/2006  11:47 AM
Curry did have a season high 29 that game.
Posted by BlueSeats:

I also love Quitbury's hypocrisy on the Orlando game, where he said he only took three shots in the first 36 minutes cause Curry and JC were going off, yet he only logged three assists for the game cause his teammates weren't hitting their shots.

all kool aid all the time.
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1/2/2006  11:56 AM
Posted by Killa4luv:
Posted by McK1:

funniest thing about this:

the remark about Nash comes from a guy who calls 50 high screens a game


Who LB? The funniest thing is that you don't even know who calls the plays on your favorite team. CLASSIC!!!



[Edited by - Killa4luv on 01-02-2006 11:26 AM]



are you and hoss related?
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1/2/2006  11:59 AM
Posted by BlueSeats:
2.Thanks for posting some playoff schedule. This isn't the playoffs, every great player's stats go up in the playoffs.

no surprise then that steph's go down.

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1/2/2006  12:00 PM
Posted by jaydh:
Posted by BlueSeats:

I also love Quitbury's hypocrisy on the Orlando game, where he said he only took three shots in the first 36 minutes cause Curry and JC were going off, yet he only logged three assists for the game cause his teammates weren't hitting their shots.

did you watch that game? thats how it looked to me


Yes I saw the game. What is how it looked to you, that he's trying to have it both ways, that his guys were going off but he didn't assist them cause they weren't hitting their shots? Which is it, they were hot, or they couldn't sink a bucket????
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1/2/2006  12:05 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by jaydh:
Posted by BlueSeats:

I also love Quitbury's hypocrisy on the Orlando game, where he said he only took three shots in the first 36 minutes cause Curry and JC were going off, yet he only logged three assists for the game cause his teammates weren't hitting their shots.

did you watch that game? thats how it looked to me


Yes I saw the game. What is how it looked to you, that he's trying to have it both ways, that his guys were going off but he didn't assist them cause they weren't hitting their shots? Which is it, they were hot, or they couldn't sink a bucket????

i think 35%FG explains it.

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1/2/2006  12:12 PM
Posted by jaydh:[br
i think 35%FG explains it.

Um, were having the exact same discussion in two threads. I'll post me other reply here too, then lets just pick one thread.

Then what explains him only taking 3 shots in 36 minutes?

Don't you see that to explain his low points he says his teammates were hot, but to explain his low assists he says they couldn't hit their shots.

He dogged it and you guys actually buy his bull crap, however blameful and irrational it may be. Then to top it all off, some of you who refuse to acknowledge the obvious call those who do "blind" or "ignorant".


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1/2/2006  12:20 PM
maybe 35%fg explains both, perhaps since his teammates were shooting such a low percentage that night he didnt get the assists, and since HE was shootig such a low percentage that night he didnt look for his shot., but Im actually mostly joking when I say that

well lets look at the bright side, at least he's showing up for the optional practices.


[Edited by - slimpack on 01-02-2006 12:21 PM]
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1/2/2006  1:32 PM
Yeah, that is a pretty stupid thing to say. Don't think it'll lead to Nash doing anything differently but Steve Nash is very hard to defend screens or not. I don't know what Marbs is talking about.
Posted by McK1:
"Steve Nash is hard to guard because they set a lot of picks for him. But individually . . . far as scoring, it's not that difficult to really guard him. It makes it difficult because he has a lot of guys who can shoot the ball."


Dumbbury is just asking for Nash to come in here and get 30 15 & 7 boards.

The schedule makers know the guy is going to say something dumb to incite the game's best. Last year: I am the best pg right before Kidd comes to the Garden on New Years, this year Nash is an easy guard.

when wil h learn

ps
for the dummies who will say Steph is right, Nash can't score:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/basketball/nba/specials/playoffs/2005/playoffs.schedule/

steph + lb make nice nice

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