Ewing played for years as the main man with no real superstar by his side. He finally got Spree and Houston after he was over the hill and injured.

After Ewing the Knicks were undersized in an era where all the good teams had size. Tim Duncan and D Rob, Shaq in LA......

Also the Knicks had to deal with Childs, and Ward for years then Eisley came aboard. Then Jax makes his farewell appearance when he probably should have been filing for social security......Then when it seems like every team has a good point guard the Knicks sell the house for Marbury.

After we get Marbs the Knicks finally get size galore.....but the league seemed to have already grew with all the good teams sporting a decent centers and other skillful bigs.

Now at a time where it seems like every team has a bonified scorer at the swing man position.....the Knicks have Q who forgot how to score, Craw that doesn't know when to score, and Ariza who has no freakin idea what scoring even is.....

Oh yeah the Knicks have had tard coaches ever since Pat Riley quit.....yeah **** Van Gundy. We finally get a great coach and he becomes a Knicks and just shoves the dagger in our hearts with his games and other bull**** that no one can explain.

why!!!!!

Can the Knicks get a break? Geez man can we live!!!!

We could very well be on our way. We are a swingman away right now.

there are two MAIN reasons why we continue to lose...

1. defense
2. turnovers

no matter who we put out there, our defense is AWFUL. we can't get stops, we can't guard pick and rolls, and we don't have a legitimate monster rebounder.

the turnovers are pretty bad as MANY of them are unforced probably due to a combination of unfamiliarity, constant changing lineups, and low IQ players.

what do we do? does a swingman solve our defensive problems? can one person do that? maybe a guy like artest but i don't think that's where we're going nor should we. in fact, i almost think we're not gonna really do anything (outside of trying to move q1). everyone's value is pretty low and it's almost better to try to build them back up instead of selling low.

we are devoid of leaders. we are devoid of high IQ players. we have really young guys developing. we have really old guys that stink. and we have a star that has a bunch of issues.

we have a coach who, hopefully, hasn't forgotten how to coach after the jerome james signing. he has not completely helped our situation but you have to believe that we'll be much better off in the long run b/c of it.

it's getting to the point where they can't do anything BUT stop taking back the big $$$ deals and to STOP giving up picks. in essence, rebuilding. but with all this talk about penny for jalen, it's just more of the same. this organzation has been spinning it's wheels for 5 years...and it looks like it may coming to a head.

Posted by jaydh:

Posted by Knicksfan:

Posted by Killa4luv:

We could very well be on our way. We are a swingman away right now.

Just a swingman away? You had kool-aid in your breakfast, didn't you? Im not that positive about this team anymore. They still lack many pieces...

most of our losses were very close.. if Q hit half of his shots, or we had a good swingman defender, many of those games were winnable, even with all the errors made.



[Edited by - jaydh on 01-01-2006 10:01 AM]

Most of our losses we were down double digits in the fourth. Our starters/heavy rotation guys making a run against second and third stringers only made the score look close.

Posted by jaydh:

Posted by McK1:

Posted by jaydh:

Posted by Knicksfan:

Posted by Killa4luv:

We could very well be on our way. We are a swingman away right now.

Just a swingman away? You had kool-aid in your breakfast, didn't you? Im not that positive about this team anymore. They still lack many pieces...

most of our losses were very close.. if Q hit half of his shots, or we had a good swingman defender, many of those games were winnable, even with all the errors made.



[Edited by - jaydh on 01-01-2006 10:01 AM]

Most of our losses we were down double digits in the fourth. Our starters/heavy rotation guys making a run against second and third stringers only made the score look close.

11 losses were by 9 or less points, that to me are winnable games.

[Edited by - jaydh on 01-01-2006 11:10 AM]

I don't think that the criteria that you're using as your basis for winnable games is large enough. Why not make it 12 or 15 or even 20.

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by jaydh:

Posted by McK1:

Posted by jaydh:

Posted by Knicksfan:

Posted by Killa4luv:

We could very well be on our way. We are a swingman away right now.

Just a swingman away? You had kool-aid in your breakfast, didn't you? Im not that positive about this team anymore. They still lack many pieces...

most of our losses were very close.. if Q hit half of his shots, or we had a good swingman defender, many of those games were winnable, even with all the errors made.



[Edited by - jaydh on 01-01-2006 10:01 AM]

Most of our losses we were down double digits in the fourth. Our starters/heavy rotation guys making a run against second and third stringers only made the score look close.

11 losses were by 9 or less points, that to me are winnable games.

[Edited by - jaydh on 01-01-2006 11:10 AM]

I don't think that the criteria that you're using as your basis for winnable games is large enough. Why not make it 12 or 15 or even 20.

yea, why not, right?

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by Killa4luv:

We could very well be on our way. We are a swingman away right now.

Looks like Killa's baby isn't letting Killa get any sleep cuz daddy is delirious.

I agree with him - we are a swingman away right now.

As long as this is the swingman:

Defense, defense, defense.......so in the loss against the bucks. The knicks lost cuz of defense? How about the Orlando game?

I think were a really good swingman away from winning. Its not like teams are giving them away. We got the hope of artest and now Danny ainge gives us hope pierce could be had for one of our expiring contracts.

I just wish you guys would get off the defense bs. You can't stop everybody...but you do have to out score your opponent to win. It takes offense and defense to do that.

Watching those games things should have been different if the knicks attacked. The offense is so out of synch how can the defense have a chance to succeed?

I never played in the NBA or overseas, or for a division 1 college. But it don't take all that to know that uf you are going out there thinking defense is your only way to win you already lost.

A lot of the games the knicks in general looked beat. No one is having fun. No one knows what their roles are.

I think once the knicks get a solid answer at the three things will begin to fix themselves. But Larry has kinda killed that dream. What the hell, you know?