Don't you guys think if the Rose trade was going to happen, it would have happened by now? Obviously, something is holding this deal up.

Posted by bigbeast:

Don't you guys think if the Rose trade was going to happen, it would have happened by now? Obviously, something is holding this deal up.

it wont happen because jalen is not worth 34mm$ and tornto's rebuilding plan for their franchise centers on their picks. its not feasible unless they could get the knicks to take the denver pick and the 2nd round pick--that denver pick has top 5 protection.

Let the contracts expire. We need to start making room.

Your forgot to add these stats. 4, 14, 29, 67. Thats the amount of games he played the last 4yrs not including this one. Trading him for an expiring contract frees Orlando of his max contract, which ends after next season. Which also allows them to go after a max free agent in the summer or possibly 2 with Cato & Christie also coming off the books as well. They can't depend on Hill to be healthy for a full season or if they were to even go to the playoffs which I doubt. They can't depend on him to be healthy for that either. He also isn't in there long term plans. I wouldn't trade an expiring contract for Hill straight up if I was the Knicks. I would do it for Hill and a draft pick though.

And we wouldn't be trading for Rose so he could come save us. We would be trading for Rose to get a high draft pick. We already stink and have gotten blown out at Home a couple times this season already. While its possible I doubt he could make us worse than we already are. He does give us the possibility of getting better especially if we were to get Hill also. But again the key is the draft pick(s) to build for the future. A few yrs down the road you wouldn't be talking about Rose you would be talking about the draft pick(s).

Your forgot to add these stats. 4, 14, 29, 67.

We already know he has been injured, but he played a lot of games last year and he looks good this year. Why would they make themselves worse right now for a theoretical player to be obtained later, especially considering that they are not very good?

Trading him for an expiring contract frees Orlando of his max contract, which ends after next season. Which also allows them to go after a max free agent in the summer or possibly 2 with Cato & Christie also coming off the books as well. They can't depend on Hill to be healthy for a full season or if they were to even go to the playoffs which I doubt. They can't depend on him to be healthy for that either.

I understand the rationale, but it is wishful thinking that we will get Hill for our scrubs. Why wouldn't they trade Hill next year while his play is still strong and he is in his final contract year, maximizing his value?

He also isn't in there long term plans.

Where do you get your information from?

I wouldn't trade an expiring contract for Hill straight up if I was the Knicks. I would do it for Hill and a draft pick though.

More wishful thinking...

And we wouldn't be trading for Rose so he could come save us. We would be trading for Rose to get a high draft pick. We already stink and have gotten blown out at Home a couple times this season already. While its possible I doubt he could make us worse than we already are. He does give us the possibility of getting better especially if we were to get Hill also. But again the key is the draft pick(s) to build for the future. A few yrs down the road you wouldn't be talking about Rose you would be talking about the draft pick(s).

And more wishful thinking...so the Raptors trade away a lottery pick for a theoretical future signing while making themselves worse right now? Isiah is not the Raptor's GM anymore!

oohah

Posted by oohah:

Your forgot to add these stats. 4, 14, 29, 67.

We already know he has been injured, but he played a lot of games last year and he looks good this year. Why would they make themselves worse right now for a theoretical player to be obtained later, especially considering that they are not very good?

Trading him for an expiring contract frees Orlando of his max contract, which ends after next season. Which also allows them to go after a max free agent in the summer or possibly 2 with Cato & Christie also coming off the books as well. They can't depend on Hill to be healthy for a full season or if they were to even go to the playoffs which I doubt. They can't depend on him to be healthy for that either.

I understand the rationale, but it is wishful thinking that we will get Hill for our scrubs. Why wouldn't they trade Hill next year while his play is still strong and he is in his final contract year, maximizing his value?

He also isn't in there long term plans.

Where do you get your information from?

I wouldn't trade an expiring contract for Hill straight up if I was the Knicks. I would do it for Hill and a draft pick though.

More wishful thinking...

And we wouldn't be trading for Rose so he could come save us. We would be trading for Rose to get a high draft pick. We already stink and have gotten blown out at Home a couple times this season already. While its possible I doubt he could make us worse than we already are. He does give us the possibility of getting better especially if we were to get Hill also. But again the key is the draft pick(s) to build for the future. A few yrs down the road you wouldn't be talking about Rose you would be talking about the draft pick(s).

And more wishful thinking...so the Raptors trade away a lottery pick for a theoretical future signing while making themselves worse right now? Isiah is not the Raptor's GM anymore!

oohah

Yea its wishful thinking. All trades posted on a Knicks board that aren't actually happening are wishful thinking by the poster. But its also not some far fetched looney toon proposals. I don't know or expect these trades to go down exactly like I write it up either. Im just saying its to moves Isiah should pursue. Maybe Orlando would balk at moving Hill maybe not who knows unless they actually have talks, But I think Orlando would seriously consider if not jump at the chance to clear Hill's contract and go after some young studs for the future. And possibly even resign Hill in 2 seasons for cheap as a free agent.