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Killa4luv
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12/31/2005  3:01 PM
I rewatched the game today. Curry was setting a screen, and Currry moved before Steph went around the screen and as he was moving he stuck his foot out. Thats actually what happened. I am just stating the facts for some of the haters because I know this will repeated into oblivian if it goes unchecked. I defy anyone to prove me wrong.

edit: I forgot to actually say that the ball went off of Curry's foot, but I am sure you all got that. I just know some of the haters are not that bright so i like to spell it out for them.

[Edited by - Killa4luv on 12-31-2005 10:47 PM]
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12/31/2005  3:03 PM
but i saw him blowing at the ball after it left crawford's hands for the 3...that's why he missed it.
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12/31/2005  3:06 PM
Excellent, so while Crawford shows leadership by taking full responsibility for the loss, Steph will be able to remain steadfast in his status as never to blame.
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12/31/2005  3:07 PM
Posted by Killa4luv:

I rewatched the game today. Curry was setting a screen, and Currry moved before Steph went around the screen and as he was moving he stuck his foot out. Thats actually what happened. I am just stating the facts for some of the haters because I know this will repeated into oblivian if it goes unchecked. I defy anyone to prove me wrong.

I had a feeling it was curry's foot and not steph's, In fact I said it in the game thread, but i wasnt completely sure I was right and the announcers were wrong.
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12/31/2005  3:08 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:

Excellent, so while Crawford shows leadership by taking full responsibility for the loss, Steph will be able to remain steadfast in his status as never to blame.

taking full responsiblity for the loss doesnt show leadership if the loss is all your fault, which it was with crawford, and there's nothing wrong with steph not taking the blame since he did nothing wrong.


[Edited by - slimpack on 12-31-2005 3:09 PM]
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12/31/2005  3:21 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:

Excellent, so while Crawford shows leadership by taking full responsibility for the loss, Steph will be able to remain steadfast in his status as never to blame.
I was expecting you.

What I posted was factual, not an interpretation, but a factual explanation of what happened. He wasn't to blame for that particular play. I defied the haters (you) to prove me wrong. What do you do when you can't? Equate this thread to some blanket infallability clause on Steph's behalf. How typical.

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12/31/2005  3:57 PM
Posted by Killa4luv:
Posted by BlueSeats:

Excellent, so while Crawford shows leadership by taking full responsibility for the loss, Steph will be able to remain steadfast in his status as never to blame.
I was expecting you.

What I posted was factual, not an interpretation, but a factual explanation of what happened. He wasn't to blame for that particular play. I defied the haters (you) to prove me wrong. What do you do when you can't? Equate this thread to some blanket infallability clause on Steph's behalf. How typical.

Look, for the most part I feel my criticisms of Steph are very valid and I can credibly back them up. SOMETIMES for my own pleasure I do go overboard, particularly in my sheer volume of posts, sometimes to call him dumb names, etc,. It's my form of comic relief. Forgive me for that, this was probably one of those times, and I understand it can get annoying.

However, I sincerely do think that Crawford's taking of the blame last night was an example of the kind of humility, responsibility and leadership that has eluded Steph throughout his career, and it is a MAJOR building block for Craw. It establishes he wants responsibility, and is willing to shoulder ALL that comes with it, the good and the bad.
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12/31/2005  4:02 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by Killa4luv:
Posted by BlueSeats:

Excellent, so while Crawford shows leadership by taking full responsibility for the loss, Steph will be able to remain steadfast in his status as never to blame.
I was expecting you.

What I posted was factual, not an interpretation, but a factual explanation of what happened. He wasn't to blame for that particular play. I defied the haters (you) to prove me wrong. What do you do when you can't? Equate this thread to some blanket infallability clause on Steph's behalf. How typical.

Look, for the most part I feel my criticisms of Steph are very valid and I can credibly back them up. SOMETIMES for my own pleasure I do go overboard, particularly in my sheer volume of posts, sometimes to call him dumb names, etc,. It's my form of comic relief. Forgive me for that, this was probably one of those times, and I understand it can get annoying.

However, I sincerely do think that Crawford's taking of the blame last night was an example of the kind of humility, responsibility and leadership that has eluded Steph throughout his career, and it is a MAJOR building block for Craw. It establishes he wants responsibility, and is willing to shoulder ALL that comes with it, the good and the bad.

hm, maybe your right about craw, also did he play PG last night? cuase if not then his role on this team changed yet AGAIN. also just one question, was there ever a game where it was clearly steph's fualt we lost it where he didnt take any responsiblity for it?
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12/31/2005  4:08 PM
Posted by SlimPack:

hm, maybe your right about craw, also did he play PG last night? cuase if not then his role on this team changed yet AGAIN. also just one question, was there ever a game where it was clearly steph's fualt we lost it where he didnt take any responsiblity for it?

We've lost A LOT of close games since Steph's infamous comments and our subsequent tailspin. Has Steph taken responsibility of ANY of them?

Has he even been responsible for winning some?

What is Steph's responsibility on and to this team???
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12/31/2005  5:08 PM
Posted by Killa4luv:

I rewatched the game today. Curry was setting a screen, and Currry moved before Steph went around the screen and as he was moving he stuck his foot out. Thats actually what happened. I am just stating the facts for some of the haters because I know this will repeated into oblivian if it goes unchecked. I defy anyone to prove me wrong.

who cares, who did what!

The fact is the team lost, again.

All this losing has weighed heavily all of the players' minds killing their confidence in coming back from any deficit, in the second half, so they stumble and bumble to another loss, it's really nothing a nice winning streak would cure. They played a better game against the Bucks but it came up short, they just have to work harder, keep their heads in the game and not let the referees dictate how they play their game by getting themselves distracted with the lame calls they get against them.
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12/31/2005  5:24 PM
way to go killa.
all kool aid all the time.
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12/31/2005  10:39 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by Killa4luv:
Posted by BlueSeats:

Excellent, so while Crawford shows leadership by taking full responsibility for the loss, Steph will be able to remain steadfast in his status as never to blame.
I was expecting you.

What I posted was factual, not an interpretation, but a factual explanation of what happened. He wasn't to blame for that particular play. I defied the haters (you) to prove me wrong. What do you do when you can't? Equate this thread to some blanket infallability clause on Steph's behalf. How typical.

Look, for the most part I feel my criticisms of Steph are very valid and I can credibly back them up. SOMETIMES for my own pleasure I do go overboard, particularly in my sheer volume of posts, sometimes to call him dumb names, etc,. It's my form of comic relief. Forgive me for that, this was probably one of those times, and I understand it can get annoying.
I don't think most of your criticism are valid, and you can't credibly back up at least one of your major points which is that Steph is dragging the team down because of his body language and attitude. You don't know how the players interact in the locker room or in practice or off the court so you cannot prove that. And that is your major point. But I can accept and respect what you are saying, you try to explain yourself in a sensible manner. I am glad on this particular point you are not charging foward when you know you can't prove me wrong. I did that with a poster here, and it was really and truly unbelievable. It was funny, he sounded so stupid. I truly appreciate your honesty here. Its refreshing, especially from a hater
However, I sincerely do think that Crawford's taking of the blame last night was an example of the kind of humility, responsibility and leadership that has eluded Steph throughout his career, and it is a MAJOR building block for Craw. It establishes he wants responsibility, and is willing to shoulder ALL that comes with it, the good and the bad.
I disagree. There was no way for him to say anything else. No feasable way. He blew 3 possesions under the 3 minute mark, it was clearly his fault. I have never seen Steph, or anyone else in the last 3 years mess up that badly that many times in the crunch. one mistake in the crunch is usually surmountable, but 3? 2 of which lead directly to baskets......Nah. I respect him for manning up, but he didn't do anything special really, he just stated the obvious and would have looked like a total and complete idiot doing anything to the contrary. He doesn't get anything special for that. If he stepped up and said his inconsistancy was a major part of us losing, and hes gotta find a way to put up at least 15 points every night. I would make the statement you made above, because that shows a a willingness to play hard every single night.

AND If Steph screwed up like that and took the heat for it, I can't imagine you saying anything like that, but I'm sure you'll deny that.



[Edited by - Killa4luv on 12-31-2005 10:45 PM]
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1/1/2006  9:50 AM
Posted by SlimPack:
Posted by BlueSeats:

Excellent, so while Crawford shows leadership by taking full responsibility for the loss, Steph will be able to remain steadfast in his status as never to blame.

taking full responsiblity for the loss doesnt show leadership if the loss is all your fault, which it was with crawford, and there's nothing wrong with steph not taking the blame since he did nothing wrong.


[Edited by - slimpack on 12-31-2005 3:09 PM]

THANK YOU!!!

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