I'm 25, I've watched the NBA since I was 5 or 6. This is the worst basketball I've ever seen without a doubt. I've seen Q play with the Clips and the Suns. I've seen Curry play with the Bulls. I've seen Marbs play with the Nets and Phoenix. They all played better, much better than they are with Larry. These guys have not forgotten how to play. I can't stand this team any more, we start the game 5-22 shooting against a team that's lost 8 of their last 12, that's worse than I can describe. I despise Larry Brown more than any Knick since Howard Eisley.

Nate makes mistakes but he looks like the best defender and sometimes the best offensive threat they have but he barely plays.

Lee has never had a bad game but he's inactive all the time

Craw this year, looks like we wanted him to look like last year, but his minutes are all over the place

What do you look for in a well coached team? Effort and discipline on defense usually? That is exactly what the Knicks are not.

Someone please tell me why I should be patient.

start with reading some of the other threads besides the ones you create.