Elite...this is what I've been thinking about all year.

He's putting a muzzle on Steph's creativity and freelancing and is not running the pick and roll like we did the last few years with Kurt with guys like Frye. That's why his assists are down. He's got good players...fit the system around them!

BTW, anyone notice that Chauncy Billups has gone from perenially under 6 asts per to 8.6 per game this year with more freedom to freelance?

Usually, Steph holds the ball then makes one pass for a direct basket. Under brown, he wants ball movement which spreads the assist around

Posted by bigbeast:

Usually, Steph holds the ball then makes one pass for a direct basket. Under brown, he wants ball movement which spreads the assist around

Yeah that is true. It's a true basketball purist system that has proven to work more than the one on one antics of Marbs, Craw and Nate. Unfortunately for us besides our guards noone on this team can put the ball in the basket so the assists just aren't going to be there

You're right and if our goal is to get the most out of our current roster so we can win 35 games than we should change the system.

But if the goal is to teach our future how to play basketball the right way so that when a playoff series is on the line they make the extra pass instead of forcing an off balanced jumpshot with a hand in the face than we should stick to the current system and keep those players that can pick it up and get rid of those who think team ball is too difficult to learn.

His assists are down partly because he's on the floor with AD too much.

I always thought that the point guards job was to control the offense. He is supposed to set up players and look for his shot when he has it. This is what Marbury is all about. Now Marbs has to come down and pass to Antonio Davis so he can pass to Malik and Malik passes to Ariza to pass back to Malik to pass back to Davis....How the hell are the Knicks gonna win games playing like this?.

Marbs should bring the ball up and Frye should be right there waiting for him at the elbow to set a screen.

or

Marbs should be calling Q to post up all the wimps that have been guarding him this season.

or

Marbs should be feeding Curry the way he fed Nazr inside. Nazr was looking like David Robinson when Marbs was driving and dishing to him. Curry lives off this type of play. The Bulls always had Curry sliding to the basket off the dribble penitration. You can't stop Curry with his hands, size and quickness. Even Jerome James.

or

Aside from Marbs.....guys like Malik and Davis should only be out there to set screens to get Q, Marbs and especiall Craw open. I can see Craw scoring at will coming off a Davis screen or even a double screen with another guy. Craw has the ability to make the pass in that situation or score.

What else can be said. Has Brown been doing any of this? All I hear is energy and defense......guys would be coming out with energy if they were played to their strengths. You gotta lock guys down especially down the stretch but you also have to play to your strengths and make the other team have to play defense too.

Posted by franco12:

when marbs said he wanted to be a 2, and lb said- no, we don't have anyone else that can be a pg - what kind of line of crap was that?

I never wanted LB, but was happy we got him- but, I dunno- he is slowly turning Marbs into an ineffective player that will have zero trade value.

We would have been better off with an outscore them type coach- and you can say that system won't win a championship- and you might be right.

But I'd rather watch us win 42 games, make the play offs and have players with value that could get traded in the summer.

Once Larry is down with this roster, no one is going to have any value.

Um last time I recall Marbury did proclaim himself the best PG in the NBA and then when things go wrong he wants to cry to Larry Brown so he can make him the SG, please Stephon. He ain't AI. Never will be like AI.

Posted by OasisBU:

Posted by VDesai:

Elite...this is what I've been thinking about all year.

He's putting a muzzle on Steph's creativity and freelancing and is not running the pick and roll like we did the last few years with Kurt with guys like Frye. That's why his assists are down. He's got good players...fit the system around them!

BTW, anyone notice that Chauncy Billups has gone from perenially under 6 asts per to 8.6 per game this year with more freedom to freelance?

Exactly. On paper this team is good. Larry's system doesnt fit the players - he should change or they should get the players for him. But at this rate - he wont be around for more then 3 years tops. So why didnt Zeke try to get someone who would fit this group of players? I see no reason why NYK has such a bad record. Its the coaching. Steph too - but the coaching doesnt fit the players and vice versa. So Zeke should get a lot of the blame.

Because zeke isn't under the impression that this team is complete.

Every great coach in the history of sports from Phil Jackson to Pat Riley to Larry Brown to Bill Parcells gets the players they want, that's why they all want to be GM's. That's why 90% of the leagues trades happen because players don't fit into the coach's system.

Larry was not hired to maximize this roster so we can top out at 45 wins. Larry Brown was brought here to implement a system that has proven successful for over 20 years. He takes precedents over players that have never won. Those players that buy into the system will stay and win with Larry Brown. Those that don't will be canned.