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there's one thing i will say about possibly moving steph, isiah...BE PATIENT
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djsunyc
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12/28/2005  11:18 AM
a panic move just to get steph off the team may hurt us more in the long run. i still believe we should trade steph but if the best we can do is wally z, then i'd rather try to work it out with him for the rest of the year and re-visit moving over the summer.

i harp and harp and harp about moving him...and i sound like a broken record. but he's still a good player. i really have little confidence that he will ever become the leader we need him to be and i also think his presence on the team delays what we really should be doing and that's rebuilding (i.e. seeing if jamal can be our future pg, and if not, find someone that can).

BUT, like others have said, if it's not a good trade, then we can't just dump him just to get him off the team - he's too talented for that. imho, i only would trade steph in a pure salary dump and that's it. i don't want anybody in return. i'd rather trade him for guys expiring no later than next year so we can finally get around the cap in 07/08. and if that's not possible, then we need to get a quality player in return. but if it's for mediocre players AND they don't expire within 2 years, then we shouldn't trade him now.

isiah just has to be patient (despite my impatience) on this one and make sure he does the right thing.

my allegiance is to the team first. if we start winning and steph is a big part of it, GREAT. i'll be the first to post saying i was wrong. i don't care. i just want the team to f'n win some games already.
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VDesai
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12/28/2005  11:22 AM
The best possible option for htis team is that Larry Brown let's Steph play the way he is used to playing on offense. Let him run the pick and roll. Let him score when he needs to. He's still the best scorer on the team.

If something came a long like the deal we gave Phoenix, (i.e immediate cap assistance through expring deals, someone willing to take on additional contracts and some picks and prospects) you certainly do it.
franco12
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12/28/2005  11:27 AM
salary dump and picks- first rounders- perhpas 3.
crzymdups
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12/28/2005  11:28 AM
there's no way we're getting picks for Marbury. We'd be lucky to get an expiring contract.
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BlueSeats
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12/28/2005  11:31 AM
DJ, in our system which already has three combo guards and nobody who can shoot straight, we'd be better off with Wally.

Or go full rebuild and go for picks and payroll relief. But Steph hasn't done much for this team since about a year ago. What's our record since 1-1-05 ? It's not "all Steph's fault", but neither has he been terribly effective against losses.
crzymdups
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12/28/2005  11:32 AM
Posted by BlueSeats:

What's our record since 1-1-05 ?

24-54, I believe.
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SlimPack
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12/28/2005  12:58 PM
How do we even know that zeke wants to trade marbury? I think its a little to early for that, although if the boo's persist Im sure a fan pleaser like zeke would trade marbury regardless of how valuable he is to this team.
Bippity10
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12/28/2005  1:10 PM
Posted by SlimPack:

How do we even know that zeke wants to trade marbury? I think its a little to early for that, although if the boo's persist Im sure a fan pleaser like zeke would trade marbury regardless of how valuable he is to this team.

That's my biggest fear. Another hasty move for another savior that has the fans going Yeah because we got rid of the evil Marbs, but leaves us 30 years away from another title.
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there's one thing i will say about possibly moving steph, isiah...BE PATIENT

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