That's the point of my post Nyballer. This stuff spreads. For three years we have been playing ole d and noone besides KT has ever done anything about it. Now you are slowly seeing guys learn about pride.

All I'm saying is a few games from now you will see AD or Nate get fed up again. And a few games after that you will see another player get fed up with it. These are the little things coach's are teaching the players. These are things you don't see results from now but you will 40-50-75 games from now. We bash AD for not being able to bring it but this is the reason he was brought here and this is the reason he plays and some of the young guys have to sit in their suits and stew. Patience. It's all about learning.

I agree. In general, this group does not play with a high enough level of effort. Also, possibly because there are so many new guys, they don't feel sufficiently embarrased for being humiliated on the home court.

I wanna see these guys play some defense and leave it all out on the floor. What are they saving it up for?

[Edited by - BASKETBALLJONES on 12-27-2005 3:14 PM]

I don't agree with the act. I thought it was dirty and if I was a net I would have gone after Nate too. That being said it was still nice to see a Knick player not give up an easy lay-up. Now the goal is to teach him to do what AD did, send a message without the extra nonsense.

Although I do not know too many knick fans that had a problem when Charles ro Mase did the same thing.