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12/27/2005  9:45 AM
I don't want to hear anything about his previous record as of right now he is being out coached consistently and this rotation is killing the team.....How you have James, Davis, Ariza out on the court at the same time is beyond me.....He takes Nate out in the first half after he comes in and makes his first four shots, Richardson was playing terrible all night but Larry left him in the game.....Steph is sitting on the bench when we need an outside threat in the fourth and he is playing well....

Why is Woods on the team let alone playing? And why is Lee back on the inactive list.......Actually it makes perfect sense considering the only source of energy was banished for three games as well.....

Larry needs to step up and learn how to coach again and get some effective lineups, its getting very old....There is no way this team should be getting blown out on a nightly basis........

Don Chaney almost got the knicks without sprewell for the first 10 to the playoffs with a 37-45 record.....Starting lineup ward, houston, thomas, sprewell, harrington.......So Larry should be able to work with steph, craw, curry, james, and frye
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12/27/2005  10:12 AM
yea hes not doin good with the rotations at all... anyone can see who the good players are and how to use them... i dont know whats wrong with him
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12/27/2005  10:15 AM
larry has a 4 year contract. do you think larry wants to come home and be remembered retiring as a loser?...i think not. we may have to wait till next year or maybe jan. 2006
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12/27/2005  10:16 AM
maybe larry is trying to get fired so he can do what he wanted, retire.

I think our roster would have been better off in the hands of someone like a rick adelman- or westphal- he was available.
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12/27/2005  11:56 AM
For 2 years we roasted Chaney, now people want him back. The grass is always greener.
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12/27/2005  11:59 AM
You guys have completely lost it. Find a new hobby because you're clearly wrong about Larry Brown and I honestly can't wait until he's got guys on his team that will work into his system. I will be the first one laughing.
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12/27/2005  12:13 PM
Posted by Bippity10:

For 2 years we roasted Chaney, now people want him back. The grass is always greener.

who wants chaney?

I'm just thinking that with our current roster of offensive minded players, we'd be alot better with a coach with a system like a dantoni, adelman or don nelson- where its win by outscoring the other team...
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12/27/2005  12:35 PM
Posted by franco12:
Posted by Bippity10:

For 2 years we roasted Chaney, now people want him back. The grass is always greener.

who wants chaney?

I'm just thinking that with our current roster of offensive minded players, we'd be alot better with a coach with a system like a dantoni, adelman or don nelson- where its win by outscoring the other team...

When D'antoni and Nelson and these guys got to their teams they overturned their rosters until they got the players they wanted. LB will do the same.

I don't want this team to run. I don't want this team to try to outscore opponents. I want this team to learn how to play successful basketball. I want LB to beat the bad habits out of the young guys. I want LB to have little or no patience with the guys that are going to be here 3 years from now, so three years from now we aren't still wondering why they aren't playing defense. Let LB coach the team the way he does. Beat them down, get rid of the habits and teach them how to play winning basketball. Until we get players that don't have to learn, we must teach. Shouldn't be hard to understand.
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12/27/2005  1:08 PM
Posted by Elite:

yea hes not doin good with the rotations at all... anyone can see who the good players are and how to use them... i dont know whats wrong with him

Who are the good players and how should they be used?

What is so obvious? No one on this team has played consistently well. And you can't blame it all on the rotations - who on this team played consistently well last year or the year before? The only players that come close to meeting that criteria are the guys that everyone is killing LB for playing now - Rose, AD, Marbs Q - those are the only guys with any proven track record - and they aren't playing well.

THe young guys are yo' yos. Channing is more consistent then the others - but not yet a solid pro - especially on defense. So who are all these guys that so obviously should play?

Craw is reliable? Lee? Nate? Woods? James? Ariza?

You can fault LB for not settling on a rotation - but there is no obvious rotation. They want to build around Marbs, Channing and Curry - Curry has been limited by injuries - Frye and Channing are playing a lot.



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12/27/2005  1:30 PM
The other night Ariza grabbed a rebound. With Marbury standing next to him he immediately turned and outlet the ball to AD. AD not having a ball outlet to him in 33 some odd years of playing basketball did not even know the ball was outlet to him until he heard the whistle. We should not have to teach players this yet it happens almost once a game. Last night off the top of my head I can think of 4 outlet passes that were stolen. One thrown by Frye, Davis, Curry and Malik. Simple things that should not be an issue.

Until this basic elementary stuff is beaten out of them through head games and trades for guys that don't need to learn it you will have to accept the fact that LB is not going to be conventional. These guys have to understand this stuff. And just giving them minutes is not going to get rid of it.
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12/27/2005  1:31 PM
Most of these guys are learning basic fundamentals for the first time in their lives. If any coach's should be blamed it's their high school and AAU coach's who failed them.
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12/27/2005  6:28 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

You guys have completely lost it. Find a new hobby because you're clearly wrong about Larry Brown and I honestly can't wait until he's got guys on his team that will work into his system. I will be the first one laughing.

Agreed but I think things will change before some of the players. LB has not lost it. We're with impatience, self engrandizement, arrogance, inexperience and youth and that's just the fans.

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12/27/2005  9:25 PM
We in praise of Lon Chaney?

I liked the guy and used to get ripped for it.

Ok, Whats cool is LB don't give a rats ass what anyone thinks and he's gonna break these kids and vets no matter how long it takes. Im not sure what he is up to as its not so obvious, but these guys are not tuning him out nor giving up on him.

Marbs is a moron. But he is our moron.

Reezy got a jumper.

Craw seems to be getting it.

Nate is an "idiot" (thats DJ!) and will get it soon.

AD is not hurting us.

BIg snacks is starthing to grow on me. He is not all that bad. He can't pass, but he is playing better almost every game. he got some moves. Great back up!

If (a big IF) Curry can stay healthy I'd like to judge him the last 20 games of the season. Once in shape, once effective, I'd love to see him pass the god damm ball!

Reezy got a jump shot! I say that yet? Its smooth as hell! This kids confidence is shot! Why? Larry is totally phuching with him by Rehabbing him into a player. I'd like to see him next season.

I liked kt. I said our problems were not about him! His exile sits bad with Isiah? Why? Cuz he game the stupy little **** everything he wanted and the little Sulky **** is not responding. Give nate a year or so. Give Qich time to get over his grief.

I read Isiah and Marbs talk everyday. What about? Nice Berka towel act on the bench? How to lose your team? How can I trade you to a contender so you can ruin that team? You got your dream, what are you so unhappy about? Your acting like a CYO bitch diva? Why you got man tits?

Marbs should be have spent the summer with Bobby Knight! Paint his house, wax on, wax off! He needs mr. Myogi!

reezy got a jumper, there is hope!

larry got a 4 yr deal, he gonna do it right. His job is safe.

layden is gone, Don is gone, Lenny is gone, Herb is demoted, We made 100 trades, we got LArry freaking brown!

We got what everyone wanted, but we don't got the wins!
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12/27/2005  9:41 PM
larry got a 4 yr deal, he gonna do it right. His job is safe.

as safe as milk!...count on it
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12/27/2005  10:13 PM
Posted by Nalod:

We in praise of Lon Chaney?

I liked the guy and used to get ripped for it.

Ok, Whats cool is LB don't give a rats ass what anyone thinks and he's gonna break these kids and vets no matter how long it takes. Im not sure what he is up to as its not so obvious, but these guys are not tuning him out nor giving up on him.

Marbs is a moron. But he is our moron.

Reezy got a jumper.

Craw seems to be getting it.

Nate is an "idiot" (thats DJ!) and will get it soon.

AD is not hurting us.

BIg snacks is starthing to grow on me. He is not all that bad. He can't pass, but he is playing better almost every game. he got some moves. Great back up!

If (a big IF) Curry can stay healthy I'd like to judge him the last 20 games of the season. Once in shape, once effective, I'd love to see him pass the god damm ball!

Reezy got a jump shot! I say that yet? Its smooth as hell! This kids confidence is shot! Why? Larry is totally phuching with him by Rehabbing him into a player. I'd like to see him next season.

I liked kt. I said our problems were not about him! His exile sits bad with Isiah? Why? Cuz he game the stupy little **** everything he wanted and the little Sulky **** is not responding. Give nate a year or so. Give Qich time to get over his grief.

I read Isiah and Marbs talk everyday. What about? Nice Berka towel act on the bench? How to lose your team? How can I trade you to a contender so you can ruin that team? You got your dream, what are you so unhappy about? Your acting like a CYO bitch diva? Why you got man tits?

Marbs should be have spent the summer with Bobby Knight! Paint his house, wax on, wax off! He needs mr. Myogi!

reezy got a jumper, there is hope!

larry got a 4 yr deal, he gonna do it right. His job is safe.

layden is gone, Don is gone, Lenny is gone, Herb is demoted, We made 100 trades, we got LArry freaking brown!

We got what everyone wanted, but we don't got the wins!

ok, phew, I was starting to get down with all the other PANIC posts. I'm not too insane.
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12/27/2005  10:17 PM
Larry is a great coach and teach D first. We do not have 1 and i mean 1 good defensive player on this roster. The closest player we have to D is Ariza. His problem is that his offensive skills are terrible.
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12/28/2005  8:26 AM
Posted by FireIsiah:

Larry is a great coach and teach D first. We do not have 1 and i mean 1 good defensive player on this roster. The closest player we have to D is Ariza. His problem is that his offensive skills are terrible.

The Putbacks? They are offense. Reezy can run the lanes better than anyone. Marbs is trained not to start a break. Can't see him. Put him with Kidd and your jaw would drop! But this is the knicks. Reezy can get 6 points a game on break.

Ever see his offensive rebounding? Tip ins? His handle is improving, and he has an improving sweet stroke.

We don't run a play for him. yet. Watch him off the ball, he is weak side placed. Its cool, its gonna happen.
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12/28/2005  8:34 AM
I was thrilled to see Ariza hit two jump shots in the last game.
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12/28/2005  9:01 AM
I was thrilled to see Ariza hit two jump shots in the last game.

I think they were his first two of the season. I said on another thread that his next jump shot would be his first.
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12/28/2005  9:42 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:

I was thrilled to see Ariza hit two jump shots in the last game.

good point. And they looked smooth too. Total difference between this year and last.
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