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bigbeast
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12/25/2005  3:55 PM
For the most part, I'm all for the knicks rebuilding. But I was thinking, Knicks should think about getting artest. Isiah has proven that he is a renegade GM willing to trade any one and pick up anyone who he thinks can help his team win. So why not get Artest

Is Artest a greater risk than picking up Curry who, God forbid, could have major heart problems in the future? If Isiah is gonna play that dangerous game, then why not play it all the way. Go and get Artest. HE is the type of player that Isiah was whinning about in the papers. he's tough minded, gritty and can definitely handle playing in NY. Numerous players have had problems in the past and have come to nY and turned it around. BErnard King and Sprewell come to mind. The fans loved them. Just like the fans would love Artests effort.

The other reason why it might be a good idea to get Artest is, he's only 26. He's not 33 like Rose. Artest prime years are still ahead of him. And if Curry turns into the dominant post player he has the potential to become, him and Artes will be more of a dominat twosome than Curry and Frye. Artest can drop 20 and hold Vince to 10. He's that type of player. Wing players are the dominat players in this league and Artest is one of the few if not only who can shut down the best of them. Lebron, wade, Kobe, T-mac etc.

Also, the east is extremely weak. Other than detriot, no one else is really that good. Indy is weaker without Artest, Shaq has lost a step, and the Nets wouldn;t have anyone who can guard Artest or Curry in the post.

With Artest and Curry, we wouldn't need an (Amare) type PF. All we would need is a PF who could rebound and defend and there plenty of those guys running around. Its much easier to find a rebounding, defensive minded PF than it is to find a great wing player who could score and defend like Artest.

If this is gonna happen, obviously, Isiah would have to trade frye. I know its tough. I'm not saying I would definitely pull the trigger, but I would be very tempted.

What do you guys think?

Also, as I said before, its hard to rebuild with no draft picks or miney under the cap. Isiah has to either be creative, or make this rebuilding a 4-5 year plan.

[Edited by - bigbeast on 12-25-2005 3:58 PM]
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Ira
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12/25/2005  4:01 PM
The fact that Isaiah, who once traded for Artest, is reluctant to do it again speaks volumes to me. As far as rebuilding around him, that would be a pretty shaky foundation. I know it's tempting, but it would be one step forward and two backward. He's trouble. It's not that he's a bad guy. He's just plain crazy.
bigbeast
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12/25/2005  4:06 PM
As much as I understand why Isiah is hesitating to trade for Artest, his talent makes it very tempting. He is everything this team needs. Defense, tough-minded, SF, a scorer from the wing, intagibles....Its a hard decision...
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12/25/2005  4:22 PM
Yes.
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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12/25/2005  4:24 PM
Frye, Curry, Artest would be something.
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12/25/2005  4:27 PM
Posted by PhilinLA:

Frye, Curry, Artest would be something.

Question wasn't Frye, Curry, and Artest.....

Caz seriously....I'm not convinced Frye will be anything more than a fringe starter once we get rolling...
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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12/25/2005  4:31 PM
I disagree that Artest is everything this team needs. Would he be a major cog in putting together a winner...absolutely. But everything that we need to put us over the hump...nope.

The two most critical components to the Knicks winning is: TIME (and therefore lack of it) and Patience (and the non existence of it)

(standby for sarcastic statement from the masses) I don't understand Isiah doesn't rebuild and get under the cap waaaaa, waaaaa, waaaaa.

(Fast forward two years) Now that we're rebulding.....ohhh, the sky is falling and the only thing that's gonna save this team is trading all playes under 27 for the Nutcracker. Trade Dolan, Trade LB and fire Isiah. Oh, and draft Rudy Gay
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12/25/2005  4:42 PM
I disagree.

The only thing this team needs is DE-FENSE!....DE-FENSE!
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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12/25/2005  5:21 PM
Posted by bigbeast:

As much as I understand why Isiah is hesitating to trade for Artest, his talent makes it very tempting. He is everything this team needs. Defense, tough-minded, SF, a scorer from the wing, intagibles....Its a hard decision...

i agree, i would do it. teams like the Mavs, Heat and other teams missing that 1 piece are morons for not even considering him.
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12/25/2005  6:02 PM
Posted by bobs3304:
Posted by PhilinLA:

Frye, Curry, Artest would be something.

Question wasn't Frye, Curry, and Artest.....

Caz seriously....I'm not convinced Frye will be anything more than a fringe starter once we get rolling...

Frye will be more than fringe player, but it's okay if you see him no more than that, so when Frye proves you wrong than it that much sweeter for Frye!.
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12/25/2005  6:07 PM
^ The reason I say that is b/c if Brown is as ingenius as I think he is....he'll notice that Frye and Curry starting is a big no-no.

Gotta set the tone with someone that rebounds and defends. Frye can come off the bench and give us instant offense. But I seriously don't like him in a starting role...

We need like an Antonio McDyess at PF next to Curry.

[Edited by - bobs3304 on 12-25-2005 6:07 PM]
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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12/25/2005  7:56 PM
Posted by bobs3304:
Posted by PhilinLA:

Frye, Curry, Artest would be something.

Question wasn't Frye, Curry, and Artest.....

Caz seriously....I'm not convinced Frye will be anything more than a fringe starter once we get rolling...

Well, if you're not convinced, get his ass out of here.
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12/26/2005  10:13 AM
Isiah has no credibility and can't trade to save his ass, nothing the man does should speak volumes to anyone
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12/26/2005  4:00 PM
Chicago tried to build around artest.

INdy found out why the Bulls would not try.

Keep him away. No doubt his talent is not there. The boy just ain't right!
bobs3304
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12/26/2005  6:42 PM
Posted by Nalod:

Chicago tried to build around artest.

INdy found out why the Bulls would not try.

Keep him away. No doubt his talent is not there. The boy just ain't right!


True that Indy is losing out b/c of Ron, but please.....Jerry Krause is a moron. They gave up Brand too.

What does that say about them...
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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