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BigC
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12/24/2005  1:58 AM
If I have to disgree with one of Larry's moves it will be the benching of Jamal. I feel it is long over due that his guy gets a chance to start. Jamal not starting has hurt the team. He is one of players that gets into the flow of the offense quickly and is good at setting up the other players. Q starting over Jamal has not benefited the team. It's seems that no matter how well Jamal plays he has not been put into the starting lineup.

Jamal starting can only benefit the team. Also with the way we have been playing what else do we have to lose? Everyone has been given serveral opportunites to start why not Jamal?
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12/24/2005  2:04 AM
agreed.
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12/24/2005  2:07 AM
Jamal has led the team in scoring in 4 of the 7 wins. in two other games, he had double digit fourth quarters and basically won the game in the fourth.

He should be the primary scorer on this team. He's playing the best of anyone, even the games where he hasn't scored a lot, he's taken great shots and set up teammates. He deserves the consistent minutes and consistent role that a starter gets.

[Edited by - crzymdups on 12-24-2005 02:15 AM]
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12/24/2005  2:15 AM
I was just going to say the same thing, JC is playing nice ball and has been most of the year. He's been confident off the bench but why not start him since he's playing better more consistently than anyone else which, of course, isn't saying much.
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12/24/2005  2:26 AM
I'm so tired of this same old story. Jamal plays well 1 out of 5 games. The guy is a inconsistent player plain and simple yet whenever he plays well in those 1 out of 5 games people make him to be a star. The guy is a inconsistent player and I really don't think it's going to change. He's been in the league for 6 years now and his story has been the same every year. He's a nice player but lets stop looking only looking at the positives and realize that the negatives are there and that they are glaring.
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12/24/2005  2:27 AM
Posted by crzymdups:

Jamal has led the team in scoring in 4 of the 7 wins. in two other games, he had double digit fourth quarters and basically won the game in the fourth.

He should be the primary scorer on this team. He's playing the best of anyone, even the games where he hasn't scored a lot, he's taken great shots and set up teammates. He deserves the consistent minutes and consistent role that a starter gets.

[Edited by - crzymdups on 12-24-2005 02:15 AM]

Agreed! I think with tonight's game Jamal will be the leading scorer 5-7 of our wins. Larry not starting him was a big mistake. May times when Jamal enters the game we are already losing or getting blowout. It is hard to make a difference every night if he your team already have put teamselves in a losing situation when you enter the game. I just don't understand Larry's reasoning. Larry has started the likes James, Barnes, Nate, Mo, Rose, Q coming off injuries, yet Jamal can't get a real shot?

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12/24/2005  2:29 AM
Posted by nyk4ever:

I'm so tired of this same old story. Jamal plays well 1 out of 5 games. The guy is a inconsistent player plain and simple yet whenever he plays well in those 1 out of 5 games people make him to be a star. The guy is a inconsistent player and I really don't think it's going to change. He's been in the league for 6 years now and his story has been the same every year. He's a nice player but lets stop looking only looking at the positives and realize that the negatives are there and that they are glaring.

he's played more consistently this year, but his minutes have been inconsistent. this whole team plays well 1 out of 5 games, why single out Jamal?

I think he should get a long look at the starting SG. it's pretty obvious Q is not a long term answer there.

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12/24/2005  2:43 AM
Posted by nyk4ever:

I'm so tired of this same old story. Jamal plays well 1 out of 5 games. The guy is a inconsistent player plain and simple yet whenever he plays well in those 1 out of 5 games people make him to be a star. The guy is a inconsistent player and I really don't think it's going to change. He's been in the league for 6 years now and his story has been the same every year. He's a nice player but lets stop looking only looking at the positives and realize that the negatives are there and that they are glaring.

How can anyone play consistant when the coach and his rotations are not consistant? Also it is hard to get into the flow of games when Jamal is constantly playing in spurts. How well would most sg's do if they were substituted periodically in games? Jamal is a player that has to get the feel of the game to be able to be productive. Larry's let's Marbury get into the flow of the game why not Jamal?

Also, how consistant is the rest of the team? Where does Marbury fit in? How consistant is Q's starting at the sg?

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12/24/2005  2:55 AM
Posted by BigC:



How can anyone play consistant when the coach and his rotations are not consistant? Also it is hard to get into the flow of games when Jamal is constantly playing in spurts. How well would most sg's do if they were substituted periodically in games? Jamal is a player that has to get the feel of the game to be able to be productive. Larry's let's Marbury get into the flow of the game why not Jamal?

Also, how consistant is the rest of the team? Where does Marbury fit in? How consistant is Q's starting at the sg?

Jamal wasn't consistent last year and he was never consistent with the Bulls. He's 25 years old and not going to change magically over nite. I like Crawford as a scorer but not someone the Knicks are going to depend on night-in and night-out for this franchise.
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12/24/2005  3:48 AM
I think the Knicks have played their best ball when Nate and Steph start.
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12/24/2005  4:09 AM
Jamal should start, I've thought it all along. So he isn't consistant....who has been? His inconsistancy gave us a bunch of 20, 30 and a few 40 point games last year. He is what he is, a streaky player/shooter like most guards in the NBA. Jamal coming off the bench would be good if Q was averging about 15 and 7 but he's only averaging 7 and 4....that won't do it as a starting shooting guard!!
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12/24/2005  7:54 AM
Jamal's the biggest reason our team stinks at home. Even counting yesterday's great game, he's averaging only 11 PPG on 35% shooting in 28 mpg at home. There is absolutely no reason someone with his skills should have those kind of stats. Should he start over Q? Maybe...Probably. But I don't care. He should just grow some balls and play harder and tougher (like last night) on a consistent basis
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12/24/2005  9:12 AM
Hey, lets just forget everything and when Jamal plays good, lets start him. Then when he is inconsistant, lets trade him! Over and over.

Hey, lets watch a college baseketball game when a player does well, get all pissed we don't have 5 picks cuz that player is "sure better than anyone we got!!!!

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12/24/2005  11:37 AM
Jamal is coming off the bench for one primary reason-instant offense. It's beendone before in this league. Auerbach started it with Ramsey and Havlichek. If he's on-LB doesn't take him out. If he's off he only stays if he does the other things well.

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12/24/2005  11:50 AM
Becausa Q-rich has been so awful, I wouldn't mind Crawford starting. But does it really matter? He finishes all the games anyway. On a team that has championship aspirations, however, Crawford is a 6th man. He's too hot and cold. dropped 31 in a half on seattle, then couldn't crack double-figures in 3-4 straight games (dropped 0 in one of those games). Again, Q has been awful, so I wouldn't mind
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12/24/2005  12:01 PM
Posted by crzymdups:

Jamal has led the team in scoring in 4 of the 7 wins. in two other games, he had double digit fourth quarters and basically won the game in the fourth.

He should be the primary scorer on this team. He's playing the best of anyone, even the games where he hasn't scored a lot, he's taken great shots and set up teammates. He deserves the consistent minutes and consistent role that a starter gets.

[Edited by - crzymdups on 12-24-2005 02:15 AM]

This hilarious, just a week or two ago, Everyone was calling for Crawford's head, because he wasn't doing anything, and wanted him gone, now he is starter material.
I love Crawford he seems at times like a player who has no limits to waht he can do, then other times he shows his that he isn't doing so well, perhaps it's the fact that he isn't starting, since he was last yr, and now his role has changed, just like everyone elses under LB, and that has been the hardest thing to watch this season.

LB's rotations are killing any kind of chemistry this team could have has the season progresses, each time he benches someone for god knows what reasons, it sets that player back for god knows how many games, it's ridiculous!.

IT should've at least demanded from LB to set a rotation from the beginning and see what happens say after 5 or maybe 10 games, then make changes if need be, this constant
revolving door of starters is gonna hurt this team more than help it.
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12/24/2005  12:06 PM
Think about this, putting Q-rich on the bench would severly damage his trade value. Not that the 7pts per game has helped any.
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12/24/2005  1:07 PM
Jamal being the leader scoreer in 5 of our 7 wins, highlights the fact that we need him to play consistantly to win.

31 in a half and then 8,3 and 0 a the next few games? We can't be a winning team like that. If he played consistantly we would have won many more games.

Having said that, Q has been horrendous and I wouldn't mind Craw starting.

Crawford being the primary scorer on this team at 14 ppg?

Thus far he has played like nothing more than a complimentary player. You guys are funny.

[Edited by - Killa4luv on 12-24-2005 1:07 PM]
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12/24/2005  1:15 PM
well one thing is for sure, while the issue of crawford having lasting PG duties is one thing, but I dont think anyone here will argue that he should'nt start over q, heck penny should start over q. but thesage made a good point, we shouldnt question larry's decisions so easily, and btw crawford has been inconsistent, he needs to play well more games in a row before we should all be asking for him to be inserted into the starting lineup.



[Edited by - SlimPack on 12-24-2005 1:18 PM]

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12/24/2005  1:21 PM
Q didn't have a training camp. I think eventually he's going to start hitting his shots and give us at least 11 & 4 in 25mins. I would still like to see Crawford start though. He is the most improved player on our team. The inconsistency this year is more attributed to the inconsistent minutes and coming into games where we are already down by double digits. As long as 70% of his shots aren't bad shots like they were last year he's going to improve. We still need a more reliable star but for now Crawford is one of the guys I have the most confidence in
Jamal becoming a starter is long over due

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