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Knicks didnt expect to win? last years win total 33?
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BRIGGS
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12/16/2005  10:26 AM
since the trade deadline last year

Ny adds Mo taylor 28 8 yrs ex 2+ years 20mm
NY adds Malik Rose 29 7 yrs e 4 yrs 27mm
NY adds Jerome James 29 6 yrs 5 yrs 30mm
NY adds Q-Rich 25 5 yrs 35mm
NY adds Eddie Curry 23 4 yrs e 6 yrs 60mm$
NY adds A Davis 37 13 yrs e 1 yr 14mm$
NY adds 4 yr college player with f 4 expeerice Channing frye
NY add late first round picks 4+3 yrs college ball Nate R and David Lee

Ny sheds
23 year old mike Sweetney
33 year old Kurt Thomas
29 Nazr Mohammad

remember in 1996 when we were still a winning club, we added 3 picks--adding picks doesnt necessarily grant you immunity from the 100+ spent on the other vets. nothing came of any of the 1996 vets, but we still managed to go back to the finals without Ewing for the most part in 99

the BIGGEST problem with the current NY Knicks is Isiah Thomas made HUGE HUGE HUGE mistakes in regards to the veteran players he spent millions on acquiring--thats the truth. Now they want to blame anything and everything--even themsleves for their own ineptitude. This is not about Channing frye or getting Ariza ready, this is the failure to realize guys like Marbury, Crawford, Taylor, Tim Thomas etc.. were all expensive spit outs from other teams--he hoped that he could take other peoples problems and turn it around here--and now that there uis a player who has the skills to be an impact--NY has NO chance to get him--and really were so far in the gutter that maybe it is waste of time.

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crzymdups
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12/16/2005  10:30 AM
I agree that his record adding veterans has been pretty awful. But one thing about the difference between the 1996 Knicks team that added three picks and 1999 team that made the Finals - they turned over the roster substantially in that time. The summer after that draft they added Allan Houston and Chris Childs and traded Mason for LJ. Then, a few years later, they traded Oakley for Camby and Starks/Mills/Cummings for Sprewell and signed Kurt Thomas and acquired Chris Dudley.
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Bonn1997
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12/16/2005  1:23 PM
I don't get the argument. Is the idea that if you're spenind money now, it means you have only short-term goals rather than long-term winning goals? Why can't you spend money and still expect rebuilding to be a long, bumpy road?
martin
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12/16/2005  1:44 PM
Right, add TT and something else for the MoT trade to the shed list. Add Jackie Chan and Woods/Barnes to the add list, right?
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Knicks didnt expect to win? last years win total 33?

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