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EnySpree
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12/15/2005  4:08 PM
I'm sick of Larry Brown getting the benifit of the doubt. What will make Larry Brown happy? What players can we get to make Larry stick with a starting line-up or a steady 8-9 man rotation?

Explain to me and the rest of us who you guys think will make things right.

Stop the BS......Give me names, trade ideas etc.
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12/15/2005  4:14 PM
well, i'm not complaining about AD's role. it seems to be getting smaller and smaller each game. i can live with him getting 5-7 minutes. As for Rose, he probably just plays too hard and puts too much effort in for Brown to bench him. Outside of Marbs, the rest of the guys are our youngins who we want to see get minutes and improve(ariza,frye,curry,jc,nate,qrich,woods,butler). maybe a trade involving rose and a young player would help reduce the rotation.
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12/15/2005  4:16 PM
Posted by jaydh:

well, i'm not complaining about AD's role. it seems to be getting smaller and smaller each game. i can live with him getting 5-7 minutes. As for Rose, he probably just plays too hard and puts too much effort in for Brown to bench him. Outside of Marbs, the rest of the guys are our youngins who we want to see get minutes and improve(ariza,frye,curry,jc,nate,qrich,woods,butler). maybe a trade involving rose and a young player would help reduce the rotation.

Answer the question(s).

[Edited by - enyspree on 12-15-2005 4:17 PM]
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12/15/2005  4:30 PM
Kwame Brown and Fred Jones

if LA needs a big expiring to complete an Artest deal:

Odom AD to Indy

Artest Q Croshere to LA

Brown Fred Jones Bender to NY

[Edited by - McK1 on 12-15-2005 4:30 PM]
the stop underrating David Lee movement 1. FIRE MIKE 2. HIRE MULLIN 3. PAY AVERY 4. FREE NATE!!!
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12/15/2005  4:33 PM
^ Umm......


Yuck.
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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12/15/2005  4:33 PM
Well Spree. Who do you want, you seem to be complaining enough, what personnel do you want to be brought in to fix this situation?

I'm not going to pretend like I know who Larry Brown wants because only him and Isiah know that right now. If someone pressed a gun to my head I would say...

PG - Earl Watson or Chucky Atikins would be the type of PG that Larry is looking for.
SG - Juan Dixon or David Wesley come to mind as SG's that Larry would like.
SF - Jared Jeffries comes to mind at SF, there are others I just cant think of off the top of my head
PF - Frye
C - Curry

The guys that seem to play the best for Larry are NOT the stars but the guys that know how to play the game. This comes back to wehre Briggs was saying theres low BBall IQ on this team and he's right there is, which is exactly why these guys cant play for Larry. SMART BASKETBALL PLAYERS.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 12-15-2005 4:39 PM]
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12/15/2005  4:37 PM
Anybody with 2+ years of quality college experience.
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12/15/2005  4:40 PM
to finish the remake:

Grant Hill and Diener

Marbury to the Rockets
Swift and filler (Wesley and Norris ending contracts) to the Magic
Grant Hill Diener and a pick to NY

C Brown/Curry
PF Frye/Lee
SF Hill/Ariza
PG Crawford/Diener
SG Jones/Robinson



[Edited by - McK1 on 12-15-2005 4:41 PM]

[Edited by - McK1 on 12-15-2005 4:44 PM]
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12/15/2005  4:43 PM
^I think Diener would be a good LB PG.
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12/15/2005  4:48 PM
Diener wouldn't be a bad option. I watched him enough in college to know he has some basketball smarts which is the most important thing here. I can't see the Magic having a real use for him since they have Francis, Dooling, and Jameer Nelson. A small trade but it would be big for Larry.
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12/15/2005  4:53 PM
Grant Hill is the glue that holds a team's offense together, but he's unimpressive on defense, and old, and injury prone, and totally overpaid.

I'll pass.
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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12/15/2005  5:09 PM
I was thinking Marbs and James to Denver for Miller, Martin and Lenard. I hear Denver wants to move Martin and they want another C. I don't think that Denver would do this deal though. Even if this could get done, I would want to include a 3rd team to take Kmart perhaps to give us a SF instead and a pick to Denver.
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12/15/2005  5:30 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

Well Spree. Who do you want, you seem to be complaining enough, what personnel do you want to be brought in to fix this situation?

well if you could read you would know what I want. I have been posting the same stuff the past couple days.

I don't think the Knicks need to make trades at all I think they need to Fire Larry Brown and get a guy in there that will at least stick with a rotation and starting line up. 21 games and there still is a rotation problem and a line-up problem? Who do I want to coach the Knicks? Me!!!!!
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12/15/2005  5:33 PM
Posted by Knight:

Anybody with 2+ years of quality college experience.

So if Larry Brown had guys with 2+ years of quality college experience he would settle on a starting line-up, game plan and rotation?

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12/15/2005  5:35 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

PG - Earl Watson or Chucky Atikins would be the type of PG that Larry is looking for.
SG - Juan Dixon or David Wesley come to mind as SG's that Larry would like.
SF - Jared Jeffries comes to mind at SF, there are others I just cant think of off the top of my head
PF - Frye
C - Curry

So if the Knicks had these guys Larry would be satisfied and the Knicks would win cuz these guys are smart?

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12/15/2005  5:38 PM
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by nyk4ever:

PG - Earl Watson or Chucky Atikins would be the type of PG that Larry is looking for.
SG - Juan Dixon or David Wesley come to mind as SG's that Larry would like.
SF - Jared Jeffries comes to mind at SF, there are others I just cant think of off the top of my head
PF - Frye
C - Curry

So if the Knicks had these guys Larry would be satisfied and the Knicks would win cuz these guys are smart?


Listen buddy, you asked a question and I answered it. Your the one who wants Larry Brown fired, so I think that makes you the one.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 12-15-2005 5:39 PM]
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12/15/2005  5:45 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by nyk4ever:

PG - Earl Watson or Chucky Atikins would be the type of PG that Larry is looking for.
SG - Juan Dixon or David Wesley come to mind as SG's that Larry would like.
SF - Jared Jeffries comes to mind at SF, there are others I just cant think of off the top of my head
PF - Frye
C - Curry

So if the Knicks had these guys Larry would be satisfied and the Knicks would win cuz these guys are smart?


Listen buddy, you asked a question and I answered it. Your the one who wants Larry Brown fired, so I think that makes you the one.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 12-15-2005 5:39 PM]

Who is gonna score with that line-up? Chucky Atkins? Who would the team beat with those players? The current team is way better than these guys. You gotta be kidding me if you want Juan Dixon or David Wesley and Jared Jefferies and thing the Knicks are better off.
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Posted by EnySpree:



Who is gonna score with that line-up? Chucky Atkins? Who would the team beat with those players? The current team is way better than these guys. You gotta be kidding me if you want Juan Dixon or David Wesley and Jared Jefferies and thing the Knicks are better off.

Who says they have to start. I wouldnt mind starting Chucky Atkins next to Marbury. The problem with the Knicks offense right now is that they have no one to set it up! Marbury can not setup the offense, if you bring in a PG that can set it up then there wont be any problems, and Chucky Atkins can set it up. Jared Jeffries could certainly start at the 3, he's got a pretty good shot and would cause matchup problems playing next to Frye and Curry. He's better then any 3 that the Knicks currently have and plays good defense. If the Knicks had Wesley, they could bring him off the bench and play him in the backcourt with Crawford. Theres one thing Wesley can do and thats shoot the ball, something the Knicks sorely lack.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 12-15-2005 5:49 PM]
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12/15/2005  5:55 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by EnySpree:



Who is gonna score with that line-up? Chucky Atkins? Who would the team beat with those players? The current team is way better than these guys. You gotta be kidding me if you want Juan Dixon or David Wesley and Jared Jefferies and thing the Knicks are better off.

Who says they have to start. I wouldnt mind starting Chucky Atkins next to Marbury. The problem with the Knicks offense right now is that they have no one to set it up! Marbury can not setup the offense, if you bring in a PG that can set it up then there wont be any problems, and Chucky Atkins can set it up. Jared Jeffries could certainly start at the 3, he's got a pretty good shot and would cause matchup problems playing next to Frye and Curry. He's better then any 3 that the Knicks currently have and plays good defense. If the Knicks had Wesley, they could bring him off the bench and play him in the backcourt with Crawford. Theres one thing Wesley can do and thats shoot the ball, something the Knicks sorely lack.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 12-15-2005 5:49 PM]


according to wizards fans, Jeffries has no shot, and they would prefer ariza over him.
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12/15/2005  5:58 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by EnySpree:



Who is gonna score with that line-up? Chucky Atkins? Who would the team beat with those players? The current team is way better than these guys. You gotta be kidding me if you want Juan Dixon or David Wesley and Jared Jefferies and thing the Knicks are better off.

Who says they have to start. I wouldnt mind starting Chucky Atkins next to Marbury. The problem with the Knicks offense right now is that they have no one to set it up! Marbury can not setup the offense, if you bring in a PG that can set it up then there wont be any problems, and Chucky Atkins can set it up. Jared Jeffries could certainly start at the 3, he's got a pretty good shot and would cause matchup problems playing next to Frye and Curry. He's better then any 3 that the Knicks currently have and plays good defense. If the Knicks had Wesley, they could bring him off the bench and play him in the backcourt with Crawford. Theres one thing Wesley can do and thats shoot the ball, something the Knicks sorely lack.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 12-15-2005 5:49 PM]

So who are you trading away to get the bums that you suggested?

Set up the offense? Marbury is the offense.......who should Marbs pass to Malik Rose? Marbs has been averaging 20 and 8 for his career. All of a sudden he is a tard?

Larry has refused to play with what he has. Larry points the finger and people like you eat it up. Larry was starting guys based on their hometowns! Are you kidding me?

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