I'm watching this Orlando game.....Richardson seemed like he was gonna have a breakout game. Dude had like 6 straight points and looked like he was catching a swagger......then Larry takes him out and then you hardly see him. Today was the first time they ever seemed to look for Q on offense. Q should have plays called for him from the start of every game. The guy can score.

What is the Knicks game plan? Just make the extra pass and play defense?

Check this.....Pat Garrity....****ing guy is nothing but a role player, but Orlando has been running the same play for him to get him open for his three point shot.....money. and they keep going to him. They ran the same play 3 straigh times in the fourth quarter. That is just simple basketball.

What is the Knicks gameplan?

Channing Frye has been automatic with his jumper......you would think they would feature him. Channing is a good passer too.......pick and roll all day with Marbs, run Channing off a screen to get him open. Brown used to to that with Rick Smits.

Malik Rose has been featured way too much. Rose is not Richardson. Antonio was never a post threat and he has also been isolated too often. They seem to look for him in spots where Channing should be.

Why is Crawford playing so much point guard? Craw needs to be looking for his shot.

This is all falling on the coach. Larry finally came out and said he needs to settle on a rotation and a starting line-up. He should have had that down after pre-season. They talk about the players being professional but it's totally unexceptable for Larry not to have a grip on his team at this stage of the season. The turnovers are happening because guys don't know what they are supposed to be doing on the court. Where was the rotation that Larry promised? 11 guys still came off the bench in the 1st half.

The Knicks are not as bad as their record. Larry needs to be fired. He totally is to blame for the Knicks record. What is the game plan? How are the Knicks attacking teams? It's not about just defense. Defense will come if guys know what they are doing on offense and having fun. The team is not having fun.

Fire Larry Brown.

No. Trade Marbury instead. He doesn't fit with the game plan. Get brown his guys. Then see what happens. Get a PG who can create plays. Then let's talk about Brown.

Nah son, Larry Brown ain't the problem.. the problem is our dumb players. They all should have stayed or gone to a 4yr college.. (Crawford, Ariza, Curry) They don't know how to play the game.. Its crazy, how Channing Frye is more fundamentally sound then guys that have been in the league for 4 or 5 yrs.

I dont think its time to fire him - but i definitely think its time the media - and isiah - held his feet to the fire and got him to lead this team.

I cant believe Miami has Riley back

Posted by JayNYC:

Nah son, Larry Brown ain't the problem.. the problem is our dumb players. They all should have stayed or gone to a 4yr college.. (Crawford, Ariza, Curry) They don't know how to play the game.. Its crazy, how Channing Frye is more fundamentally sound then guys that have been in the league for 4 or 5 yrs.

So the Knicks are losing cuz guys didn't go to college for 4 years? I never bad mouth people but that has got to be the dumbest thing I have ever heard.

Larry Browns job as a coach is put his players in a position to win games regardless of who is on the roster. The problem with Larry is he thinks he can't be fired and that by coaching the way he is he'd force Isiah to make trades for the players he wants.

Rotation? Game plan? Confidence in his players? That all falls on the coach. If it were any other coach coaching the way Larry is they would have been fired by now.

Posted by EwingsGlass:

No. Trade Marbury instead. He doesn't fit with the game plan. Get brown his guys. Then see what happens. Get a PG who can create plays. Then let's talk about Brown.

This is pretty dumb too.

Get Larry his players then we'll see? That is bull****. The coach must win with who he has. Larry is throwing games to force trades. What kind of coach makes comments to the media about there being alot of movement on Dec 15th? That right there proves that Larry is tanking on purpose to get his way.

I'm so pissed that Larry would do this. I wish Isiah never got him. This team is not this bad.

Isiah Thomas roster + LB = a match made in hell

Posted by nysoldier:

I wonder who you guys are going to blame when Marbury is gone(as he should be) and chucky atkins is our point.

exactly.

Just the fact that Q was going off at the begining and then gets benched for no reason is all the prove you need. People are so brain washed. No one is watching the games.

I'm just so sad right now. The Knicks have a nice team. The players have no idea what is going on because Larry is playing his little game. I'm literally hurt that this is happening.

Posted by EwingsGlass:

Posted by EnySpree:

Posted by EwingsGlass:

No. Trade Marbury instead. He doesn't fit with the game plan. Get brown his guys. Then see what happens. Get a PG who can create plays. Then let's talk about Brown.

This is pretty dumb too.

Get Larry his players then we'll see? That is bull****. The coach must win with who he has. Larry is throwing games to force trades. What kind of coach makes comments to the media about there being alot of movement on Dec 15th? That right there proves that Larry is tanking on purpose to get his way.

I'm so pissed that Larry would do this. I wish Isiah never got him. This team is not this bad.

I am sorry you disagree, but reasonable people can differ. There are two schools of thought, of course as you say, some coaches must make do with what they have. Other coaches get the players that fit their game plan. Take PhilJax for instance. His triangle offense requires players in a certain mold. Marbury does not fit that mold. He can create his own shot. He can get his numbers. But he does not make the players around him better. If the Knicks can't win with a real point guard (who does not have to be an allstar), then I will concede I am wrong. Until then...

[Edited by - ewingsglass on 12-14-2005 10:42 PM]

Thing with Phil Jackson......his team sucks too but the guy came out of pre-season with a starting line-up and a rotation. He hasn't broke from that. He even starts Smush Parker a guy that has been in the NBA trash bin since he went pro.

Phil plays what he has and tries to make do and win games. Larry is not doing that.

No team in the league is still rotating their starting line-ups. Even Toronto has a steady rotation of guys.

All you did with your comments was prove that Larry Brown needs to be fired.

Fire Larry Brown.

That is why Phil has 9 rings and LB won the lotto and got 1

LArry is probably exposing his players as an indication and message to isaih saying the roster is weak and needs major changes..