Does it not seem odd that it has taken him 20 games and 14 starting lineups to figure out that the lineup that we thought was best, was actually the best?

I mean, I would start Craw, but I think he wants our bench to have some offensive punch so he has Craw leading our second unit. But:

Steph/Craw
Q/Nate
Ariza/Q-Dog
Frye/Mo T
Curry/Butler

is more or less what we have been calling for all season. Is he getting old, being stubborn, or showcasing veterans?

And did the 'showcase' of Ad & Rose's 'talents' hurt or help their trade value? It truly had to be difficult playing with those guys in the starting lineup night in and night out.

I don't know man. And where are the curl plays for Jamal? Or spot up plays for Jamal? Why is he not doing these things? Why did it take so long to get the pick and roll going with Frye and Steph? Hopefully tonight is the start of a new era.

Posted by Killa4luv:

Does it not seem odd that it has taken him 20 games and 14 starting lineups to figure out that the lineup that we thought was best, was actually the best?

I mean, I would start Craw, but I think he wants our bench to have some offensive punch so he has Craw leading our second unit. But:

Steph/Craw
Q/Nate
Ariza/Q-Dog
Frye/Mo T
Curry/Butler

is more or less what we have been calling for all season. Is he getting old, being stubborn, or showcasing veterans?

And did the 'showcase' of Ad & Rose's 'talents' hurt or help their trade value? It truly had to be difficult playing with those guys in the starting lineup night in and night out.

I don't know man. And where are the curl plays for Jamal? Or spot up plays for Jamal? Why is he not doing these things? Why did it take so long to get the pick and roll going with Frye and Steph? Hopefully tonight is the start of a new era.

I agree with everything you've said 1000%. I don't think there was any valid excuse for what LB did with this team. There's NO WAY this team should have such a bad record. This team had less to work with last year and wasn't this bad. We still have Steph & JC and Frye more than makes up for KT. Curry is at least as good as Nazr was for us. Then our bench is SOOOO much better now.

Why is it that teams like the Hornets have been able to play better ball than us? It has to fall on the coach. He's the one who has to find a way for this team to succeed. despite the flaws on this team its not the worst team i've ever seen. He's just not done a good job with what he has. He's spent so much time fighting against their natural strengths and really the only major problem we had from last year was on D. We scored enough, we just couldn't stop anyone. LB's offense has looked pathetic. He totally screwed up Steph and JC and hasn't exactly improved Q either. How is it that all 3 players are well below career numbers? LB better get it in gear and start really coaching this team. Maybe now he'll finally start to get serious.

I think LB just doesn't visit the forum often enough.

Knight - I suupose if Channing Frye told you to jump off a building you would do that too?

The best source of information on Larry is players body language, sharing the basketball and coming to Nate's immediate rescue the next time he gets popped in the lane

Bring back my thugs!

Lee the 4 man off the bench, MO. sits, Butler is just as good as Mo. inside and rebounds better, Lee rebounds and plays with energy off the bench.

We definitely need to make a couple of moves. This roster is greatly flawed..

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Posted by misterearl:

Knight - I suupose if Channing Frye told you to jump off a building you would do that too?

The best source of information on Larry is players body language, sharing the basketball and coming to Nate's immediate rescue the next time he gets popped in the lane

Bring back my thugs!

I agree with that. I was shouting at my TV when Nate got jobbed and no one came in and shoved Magliore. If we had 10 guys with nate's heart and toughness, wed win. You need talent, but there has to be a good blend of toughness, chemistry and heart. Nate is the only tough guy on the team and hes 5-6.

Frye for President!

I think Larry and Isiah had an understanding that Larry would get 20 games to play whoever he wanted in order to figure out what he had. Larry has done that, he's seemingly made recommendations about who to go get in trades and now I think he will play the guys who have performed.

They said even in training camp that the first 20 games would be ugly. Is it a shock to anyone that after 20 games they're going with the youth? It won't stop being ugly for a while yet, but at least it will make sense and we can develop some continuity, which is a big part of winning.

The funniest thing is that it only took Brown and IT 20 games to give up on Marbury and commit to the youth movement.

Posted by Knight:

The funniest thing is that it only took Brown and IT 20 games to give up on Marbury and commit to the youth movement.

Why does this mean he has given up on Marbury? Can't we commit to a youth movement AND not give up on Marbs? Before he decided to go youth do you think LB was hoping Marbs would lead them to a championship? Come on Knight this is the stuff the media does to cause issues. You're better than that.

The Knicks have changed gears based on necessity. Noone thinks Marbs was going to lead a core group of Antonio, Malik and Mo to the playoffs. The youth movement was set in motion the moment Allan's knees gave out. Is it time to move on from Marbs? Maybe. But I can see that without saying I give up on the guy. This guy just doesn't have a team around him that is built win games right now. I don't blame him for this.