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djsunyc
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12/13/2005  1:46 PM
Ron Artest wants to be traded, and the Indiana Pacers say they'll accommodate his request.


But what can Larry Bird and Donnie Walsh get for their All-Star caliber player now that everyone knows he's on the block? Here are 44 purely speculative trade scenarios, one for each of the other 29 teams, all of which would work under salary cap rules.

We are assuming that each team would try to get Artest, who earns $6,842,105 this season, as cheaply as possible. Rules require that the total salaries of players traded by one team not exceed that of players traded by the other team by more than 25 percent plus $100,000.

Each trade scenario is rated on a plausibility scale, from 1 (highly unlikely) to 5 (makes sense), taking into account the potential interest of both the Pacers and the other team to make the deal.

ATLANTA HAWKS
Al Harrington is a perfect match salary-wise, but the Hawks will likely hold onto him until it's closer to the trade deadline, then move him if they feel he'll leave as a free agent. For now, they could offer Tyronn Lue ($3.5 million) and Tony Delk ($2.925 million).
Plausibility rating (Harrington): 3
Plausibility rating (Lue/Delk): 1




BOSTON CELTICS
The chances are almost zilch that Danny Ainge would offer Paul Pierce ($13.8 million) for Artest and another player. Instead, the C's could combine Brian Scalabrine ($2.6 million), Dan Dickau ($2.25 million) and Marcus Banks ($1.724 million).
Plausibility rating (Pierce): 1
Plausibility rating (Scalabrine/Dickau/Banks): 1



CHARLOTTE BOBCATS
The second-year franchise is about $3.5 million below its salary cap of $37.1 million, so the Bobcats would not have to match Artest's salary. They could offer Jumaine Jones ($1.875 million) and Kareem Rush ($3 million).
Plausibility rating (Jones/Rush): 1



CHICAGO BULLS
Back in the days of Jerry Krause, they traded Artest and Brad Miller for Jalen Rose. To get Artest back, they could offer Tim Thomas ($13.975 million) and take Austin Croshere ($7.8 million).
Plausibility rating (Thomas): 3



CLEVELAND CAVALIERS
Ron-Ron said he wouldn't mind being LeBron James' backup. Danny Ferry could offer Donyell Marshall ($4.8 million) or Eric Snow ($5.48 million) and a throw-in, but Ferry would more likely try to lump together Luke Jackson ($1.95 million), Sasha Pavlovic ($1.274 million) and Ira Newble ($2.95 million).
Plausibility rating (Marshall/Snow): 1
Plausibility rating (Jackson/Pavlovic/Newble): 1



DALLAS MAVERICKS
Plenty of possibilities, the most amenable of which (for Dallas) would be Keith Van Horn ($15.7 million) for Artest and Croshere, or a straight-up offer of Jerry Stackhouse ($8.37 million).
Plausibility rating (Various Mavs options): 4



DENVER NUGGETS
One player agent told Insider on Monday that the Nuggets were listening to offers for Kenyon Martin ($10.89 million). If Denver tried to get Artest at a cheaper price, an offer of Voshon Lenard ($3.5 million) and Nene ($3.04 million) would work.
Plausibility rating (Martin): 1
Plausibility rating (Lenard/Nene): 4



DETROIT PISTONS
They wouldn't dare bring in the player most people blame for igniting The Palace brawl last season, would they? Only if they could get him for Darko Milicic ($4.13 million) and Maurice Evans ($1.5 million).
Plausibility rating (Milicic/Evans): 2




GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS
Artest could be a piece of the puzzle that would lock up a postseason berth for the Warriors, but would Chris Mullin be willing to part with a key reserve, Derek Fisher ($5.4 million), who's shooing nearly 50 percent from 3-point range?
Plausibility rating (Fisher): 2



HOUSTON ROCKETS
If Artest is looking for offensive freedom, he won't find it here behind Tracy McGrady. But Carroll Dawson could still try to get him on the cheap by offering Jon Barry ($1.8 million) and Moochie Norris ($4.2 million).
Plausibility rating (Barry/Norris): 1




LOS ANGELES CLIPPERS
Artest could turn the Clippers from an upstart into a powerhouse, but would they part with Corey Maggette ($7 million)? More likely is an offer of Chris Wilcox ($2.8 million) and Zeljko Rebraca ($3 million).
Plausibility rating (Maggette): 3
Plausibility rating (Wilcox/Rebraca): 1




LOS ANGELES LAKERS
If they could get Artest for Kwame Brown ($7.5 million), they'd do it in a second. If they could get him for Devean George ($5 million) and Stanislav Medvedenko ($3 million), they'd do it in a nanosecond.
Plausibility rating (Brown): 1
Plausibility rating (George/Medvedenko): 2



MEMPHIS GRIZZLIES
Jerry West reportedly tried to acquire Artest last season in exchange for Bonzi Wells. Indiana would probably trade Artest for Shane Battier ($4.9 million) and a throw-in, but West is not likely to make such an offer. But he might propose Brian Cardinal ($5.4 million) and a throw-in.
Plausibility rating (Battier): 3
Plausibility rating (Cardinal): 1




MIAMI HEAT
Indiana has always liked Antoine Walker ($6.88 million), who hasn't fit in all that well with his new team. If the Heat could acquire Artest, they'd have little need for James Posey ($5.9 million).
Plausibility rating (Walker): 4
Plausibility rating (Posey): 3




MILWAUKEE BUCKS
An offer of Bobby Simmons ($8 million) might get the job done, but general manager Larry Harris would first make a lowball offer of Joe Smith ($6.35 million) or a package of Dan Gadzuric ($4.75 million) and Jiri Welsch ($2.18 million).
Plausibility rating (Simmons): 2
Plausibility rating (Smith): 1
Plausibility rating (Gadzuric/Welsch): 2




MINNESOTA TIMBERWOLVES
Could package a strong defender, Trenton Hassell ($4.35 million), with spare parts Mark Madsen ($2 million) and Nikoloz Tskitishvili ($745,000). A better offer would include Wally Szczerbiak ($10.5 million), but Indiana would have to send back another player.
Plausibility rating (Hassell/Madsen/Tskitishvili): 3
Plausibility rating (Szczerbiak): 2



NEW JERSEY NETS
Rod Thorn is trying to find a power forward, not a small forward, and Artest would have a hard time fitting in with Richard Jefferson and Vince Carter manning the two and three spots. But if the Nets would be willing to move Carter ($13.8 million) to shake up a team in a funk, they could take back Artest and Jeff Foster ($5 million).
Plausibility rating (Carter): 3




NEW ORLEANS HORNETS
Almost $6.5 million below the salary cap, the Hornets would not have to match salaries. Bostjan Nachbar ($2.5 million), Arvydas Macijauskas ($2.5 million) and Rasual Butler ($1.3 million) are all expendable.
Plausibility rating (Nachbar/Macijauskas/Butler): 3




NEW YORK KNICKS
This is the team Artest would prefer to play for, but the Pacers are loathe to make any deals with former coach and Bird adversary Isiah Thomas, who could offer Jamal Crawford ($6.48 million) or Quentin Richardson ($6.95 million).
Plausibility rating (Crawford or Richardson): 3




ORLANDO MAGIC
For a franchise going nowhere, an infusion of Artest might get the folks in central Florida interested again. Hedo Turkoglu ($5.4 million) and Stacey Augmon ($1.14 million) would help replace some of what Indiana will be losing.
Plausibility rating (Turkoglu/Augmon): 2



PHILADELPHIA 76ERS
Willie Green could be sent to Indiana in a sign-and-trade deal if the Pacers want to take a chance on his surgically repaired knee, and the Sixers could combine his salary with that of Kyle Korver ($3.63 million), who would be expendable if Artest came aboard.
Plausibility rating (Green/Korver): 4



PHOENIX SUNS
Raja Bell ($4.25 million) and Jim Jackson ($2.64 million) would work, and if Bryan Colangelo was willing to throw in Leandro Barbosa ($930,000), he might just be able to get a deal done.
Plausibility rating (Bell/Jackson/Barbosa): 3



PORTLAND TRAIL BLAZERS
Ruben Patterson ($6.35 million) will likely be traded somewhere sooner rather than later, but general manager John Nash is wary of bringing in any head cases -- a category in which Artest definitely qualifies.
Plausibility rating (Patterson): 1



SACRAMENTO KINGS
The trade that everyone seems to feel makes most sense would be a straight-up swap for Peja Stojakovic ($7.5 million), but the Kings insist there have been no discussions about trading him. They'd rather move Corliss Williamson ($6 million), Brian Skinner ($4.95 million) and/or Kenny Thomas ($6.5 million).
Plausibility rating (Stojakovic): 4
Plausibility rating (Williamson/Skinner/Thomas): 1



SAN ANTONIO SPURS
Another team awash in spare parts. Indiana has always liked Argentine center Fabricio Oberto ($2.35 million), who could be combined with Brent Barry ($4.7 million) to make the salaries match. But could coach Gregg Popovich live with Artest's act? Probably not.
Plausibility rating (Oberto/Barry): 1




SEATTLE SUPERSONICS
Vladimir Radmanovic ($3.17 million) has the right to veto any trade, and he'd give up his Bird rights if he accepted one. That leaves Danny Fortson ($6.2 million) and Ronald Murray ($895,000) as the best package the Sonics would likely care to offer.
Plausibility rating (Fortson/Murray): 1




TORONTO RAPTORS
Morris Peterson ($4.55 million) would be a fit for the Pacers, but GM Rob Babcock would first try to move the dreck (Eric Williams, $3.9 million; Aaron Williams, $3.38 million) he received in the Carter trade.
Plausibility rating (Peterson): 4
Plausibility rating (Williams/Williams): 1




UTAH JAZZ
Hard to imagine a worse pairing than Artest and coach Jerry Sloan, and the guess here is that Jazz owner Larry Miller would want no part of Artest -- even if the price was only Greg Ostertag ($4.4 million) or Matt Harpring ($5.02 million) and a throw-in.
Plausibility rating (Ostertag/Harpring): 1




WASHINGTON WIZARDS
Still kicking themselves for letting Larry Hughes get away, they'd gladly cut their losses with Antonio Daniels ($5 million). But they'd also have to include a small forward, either Jared Jeffries ($2.43 million) or Jarvis Hayes ($2.01 million).
Plausibility rating (Daniels and Jeffries or Hayes): 3



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djsunyc
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12/13/2005  1:50 PM
wow - i didn't even about pheonix. what if they offer diaw + barbosa for artest?

holy schnikeys. he'll get the shot attempts, then when amare comes back:

nash, artest, marion, amare, kurt...THAT'S A WRAP!!!!
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12/13/2005  1:57 PM
i think people are mising the boat on this

portland needs a PF--they TRIED to acquire Mo Taylor last year

Patterson is a NICE fit in Indiana but I agree that OPor isnt in the market for Artest

so what makes sense to me is a threeway

P receives Mo taylor +3mm
NY receives ron artest and blake
Ind receives Patterson Lee Ariza

Now I know there are no superstars here but patterson is almost a PERFECT player for indiana and Lee and Ariza fullfill the younger player requirements

NOW if NY has to go the extra mile

they can throw in the ending contract of Davis to Ind--a guy they like for a Bender and lets say Pollard



so the deal the knicks could make--to me--if they can get por in on it, would be from a finacial personell combination that would be mighty appealing.

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12/13/2005  2:03 PM
I can see Artest going to Philly for Korver + filler
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12/13/2005  2:11 PM
Posted by Mac:

I can see Artest going to Philly for Korver + filler

Me too.
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12/13/2005  2:43 PM
Sheridan is so off. Walsh himself said "I'm not in the market for veterans. It has to make sense either for our future or financial sense or both." So you can cross almost all of his proposals off the list.
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12/13/2005  2:50 PM
Bird and Walsh wants to get rid of 3 players in that team. Artest, Croshere and Stephen Jackson. We send AD, Q and Ariza. Contracts match. That is a lot of contract and headache though.
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12/13/2005  2:53 PM
Posted by NYKBocker:

Bird and Walsh wants to get rid of 3 players in that team. Artest, Croshere and Stephen Jackson. We send AD, Q and Ariza. Contracts match. That is a lot of contract and headache though.

You can say that again. We give up our veteran locker room guy for just the opposite.
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12/13/2005  3:06 PM
One of the things we have working for us is Artest said that he would come to the knicks after his contract expired if he was traded out west. So some teams might be weary that they trade a quality player for Artest only to lose him 2 yrs later.

So hopefully it works out for us and we are able to work out a solid deal.
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12/13/2005  3:45 PM
Posted by NYKBocker:

Bird and Walsh wants to get rid of 3 players in that team. Artest, Croshere and Stephen Jackson. We send AD, Q and Ariza. Contracts match. That is a lot of contract and headache though.

I knew that about Artest and Croshere, but of Jackson? WHy do they want to get rid of him?
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12/13/2005  3:47 PM
Posted by newyorknewyork:

One of the things we have working for us is Artest said that he would come to the knicks after his contract expired if he was traded out west. So some teams might be weary that they trade a quality player for Artest only to lose him 2 yrs later.

So hopefully it works out for us and we are able to work out a solid deal.

It all depends. A lot of things can happen in 2 years and maybe he goes to a place where he turns his image around. Atill, I hope that place is New York...
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12/13/2005  5:40 PM
Posted by Knight:
Posted by NYKBocker:

Bird and Walsh wants to get rid of 3 players in that team. Artest, Croshere and Stephen Jackson. We send AD, Q and Ariza. Contracts match. That is a lot of contract and headache though.

You can say that again. We give up our veteran locker room guy for just the opposite.


So send them Penny instead so they can have an even larger expiring contract.
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12/13/2005  11:38 PM
why do the pacers want to ger rid of stephen jackson? he's been solid for them and is an outside threat.
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12/13/2005  11:39 PM
Posted by franco12:

why do the pacers want to ger rid of stephen jackson? he's been solid for them and is an outside threat.

they hate him over there. I can't recall where I read it, but he has just not been fitting in. Making bad decisions with the ball and not shooting very well. They would trade him in a second.
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12/14/2005  12:04 AM
Posted by martin:
Posted by franco12:

why do the pacers want to ger rid of stephen jackson? he's been solid for them and is an outside threat.

they hate him over there. I can't recall where I read it, but he has just not been fitting in. Making bad decisions with the ball and not shooting very well. They would trade him in a second.


Hmmm. "bad decisions with the ball" .... "not shooting very well" .... A perfect addition for the Knicks!
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12/14/2005  12:05 AM
Posted by BasketballJones:
Posted by martin:
Posted by franco12:

why do the pacers want to ger rid of stephen jackson? he's been solid for them and is an outside threat.

they hate him over there. I can't recall where I read it, but he has just not been fitting in. Making bad decisions with the ball and not shooting very well. They would trade him in a second.


Hmmm. "bad decisions with the ball" .... "not shooting very well" .... A perfect addition for the Knicks!
Maybe he's related to Jamal Craw!
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