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Killa4luv
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12/13/2005  1:05 AM
Zero points? He had some nice passes, an alley-oop, a nice pass to Frye on a pick and roll, but ZERO points?

That is just unacceptable. I think one of these scenarios explains his behavior:

1. LB has scared the game out of him and he's afraid to shoot or do anything withou LB's approval.
2. He is fearful of being traded, or knows its about to happen and is upset about it.
3. He doesn't know his role and LB has not established it well for him in the offense.
4. He's really this inconsistant and we should get used to it.

I honestly would prefer anything to the last one. I want to see him flourish, he's obviously super talented, but I swear his game is made for the west coast. He needs to run and be free, thats where he excels.
Denver, Dallas, Phoenix, Seattle, GS, any one of those teams fits his style of play. But half court doesn't seem to suit him, unless he is playing the rip hamilton role, which Larry doesn't seem too keen on running for him. I don' get it. He seemed to be playing well in the role in a few games, why stop it? It appears like he's a goner. Maybe his d is just that bad. I don't know but he is in a major slump ever since Seattle.

[Edited by - Killa4luv on 12-13-2005 01:06 AM]
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TymeLessKnicks
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12/13/2005  1:32 AM
i wanted to post something on his poor perfomance but i forgot, thats a good title for this guy tho and he needs to bring marbury along with him.

to be frank none of our scorers are scoring consistently. the are all so damn erratic its killing me.

did u see the game tonight? one time when curry was coming back in the game, crawford had just taken a bad shot, he looked like he mentioned something to crawford about his shot selection and effort.

it is very noticeable when crawford is on his game u can just tell the shots are gonna fall, the same goes for when he is b&llshyting his way on the court. when he comes off a screen u can tell if hes gonna make it or not.

all that goes for marbury too, btw.

dont the players have access to a team shrink?lol...we need a group sit down with LB, Q rich, 'starbury' the overated 'superstar', and crawford.
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djsunyc
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12/13/2005  1:41 AM
crawford has no role on this team other than to do what lb tells him. just by seeing how we're NOT running plays for him offensively tells me more and more that lb WANTS to use him as a pg and as long as steph is here, he won't be able to. so now, crawford, currently, has no role. and if you noticed, it was AFTER the sonics game where he decided to go inside/out almost everytime down court. he doesn't want crawford shooting. he wants him playing the point and setting up plays.

for crawford to be 100% comfortable here, he will have to START at pg, but lb won't do that b/c he can't play steph at sg. it sucks to say but ultimately, one of them will have to go and chances are, it'll probably be steph.
TymeLessKnicks
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12/13/2005  1:44 AM
the trading of steph will be a shocker but i guess if he is not performing what else are we supposed to do?

i would like to see him retire here, but i agree that it not gonna happen playing like this
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12/13/2005  2:18 AM
I think all of killa's points come into play but i think the greatest is the lack of a defined role. On realgm his sister (who doesn't give out much inside info at all) was sorta insinuating that something was gonna have to give. it would have to be whatever was best fr the team of course, but the implication was that jamal was not happy as things stood.

I think jamal is naturally streaky, but I don't think he's naturally timid, which is how he's playing -same can be said for Steph- so I think they are both suffering from confusion, and from Brown breaking down their egos before building them up again.

I kinda think see these guys as something like playdough which has been in one shape for some time and developed a stiff outer crust which makes them rigid (old habits and patterns of behavior) but with a soft inner pliability, and Brown is trying to bust them up to rid them of the rigidity, then he will work with what is that which is pliable.

It's an easier process with the kids as he doesn't have to break off the outer crust to begin with.

rain
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12/13/2005  2:21 AM
if you haven't noticed.. Crawfords been limping for three games..
I think his knee is bothering him. His first step and elevation are gone. This is something I've watched, and speculation.. but I think he's hurt.
Killa4luv
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12/13/2005  12:30 PM
Posted by rain:

if you haven't noticed.. Crawfords been limping for three games..
I think his knee is bothering him. His first step and elevation are gone. This is something I've watched, and speculation.. but I think he's hurt.

WOW! I sure hope thats not true.
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12/13/2005  12:34 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

crawford has no role on this team other than to do what lb tells him. just by seeing how we're NOT running plays for him offensively tells me more and more that lb WANTS to use him as a pg and as long as steph is here, he won't be able to. so now, crawford, currently, has no role. and if you noticed, it was AFTER the sonics game where he decided to go inside/out almost everytime down court. he doesn't want crawford shooting. he wants him playing the point and setting up plays.

for crawford to be 100% comfortable here, he will have to START at pg, but lb won't do that b/c he can't play steph at sg. it sucks to say but ultimately, one of them will have to go and chances are, it'll probably be steph.


Larry has already been playing Marbury at SG with Nate as a PG, but because Nate isn't a PG either, Brown keeps pressing Marb to pass first. Larry is just not confortable with Craw at the point as a starter and rather has him coming of the bench as a combo guard. Its Crawford's inconsistency that makes it even tougher to find him a role...
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12/13/2005  1:27 PM
Larry, Larry, Larry......

Guys need to know their roles and they need to get consistant minutes. Guys don't know what they should be doing. There is no game plan. I watched the re-cap last night........can anyone tell me what the Knicks game plan was? You can't tell me it was just try and stop the Bucks from scoring?!?!?!?!

All Larry talks about is defense and making the extra pass. How about running an offense where guys know they are playing and where they should be and who is going to get the ball and shoot? Defense has to do more with communication and chemistry. The team would play defense if they were clicking on offense. The Knicks have no clue.

Tell me why Frye should have had more than 30....more like 40+. It seesm like they stopped going to him. The f'ing guy was having a historic night. Then all of a sudden they stop going to him.

Craw? Poor guy probably don't even rememeber his name anymore. If Craw is comign off the bench he needs to be shooting the ball. They need to run plays for him and feature him when he comes in.

Larry is still playing mind games. He needs to stop playing around and go with what works on offense and attack teams. The defense will come.
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12/13/2005  1:31 PM
game plan offensively was to dump it in the post.
players have problems delivering it to the post.
players have problems getting position in the post.
players have problems passing out of the post.

nate robinson guarded tj ford and did a good job.
once nate left the game with 8 mins to go in the 2nd quarter, nobody could stop any buck guard from getting in the lane.

frye's defense is poor.
curry is soft.
gadzurich, magloire, and bogut's presence was felt down low.
our young froncourt were exposed defensively and showed why they can't play together for big minutes and expect to win.

when teams adjust to frye, we do not post him up to counter b/c we're trying to establish curry.

larry is implementing his system. only those that can follow his rules and do what they're told will stick. alot of people's jobs are on the line.
Crawford needs a shrink

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