Isiah isn't that stupid. Heck, you think Larry Brown would allow such a thing? I don't think so. Larry loves Channing right now. Heck, I even think he loves Nate too.

Why say Nate is a goner. He's getting better and better and can be a heck of a player in this league.

Isiah isn't that stupid. Heck, you think Larry Brown would allow such a thing? I don't think so. Larry loves Channing right now. Heck, I even think he loves Nate too.

As good as Channing already looks, I would be surprised if he is ever as good as Artest, who seems to improve basketball-wise every year. I don't think that trading Frye for Artest would be stupid at all in a basketball sense.

The thing is this, we know there is practically no chance of Frye getting into a street fight on the way to the game and doing a six month bid!

I don't know how it will work out, but I think something like Marbury for Artest and Tinsley is a possibilty. The Pacers aren't going to trade Artest for our garbage and a couple of players who might be decent.

On the other hand, maybe the Pacers figure anything is better than the Artest train wreck. I have to wonder what 'happened' to him that makes him so crazy. Some investigation should be done into his past. I used to play ball with some kids who went to school at LaSalle when he was there, and they never said he was an ass-hole...

oohah



[Edited by - oohah on 12-12-2005 11:57 PM]

Here's an article that might explain why Artest is "nuts".

Scary Good

Oh, and I think we NEED Artest.

And I also think there's no chance Walsh gives him up to us, no matter how generous the offer.

Channing, Nate, Curry, and Crawford shouldn't be traded IMO.

I think you are being a tad sentimental. Artest is better than any one of those guys, and is more valuable to the team than NR and Curry or NR and Crawford put together.

oohah

Oohah, I agree with you that currently, Artest is clearly a much better player than Channing, but you just can't see in the future. He's been making a ton of progress as it is. He's been grabbing about 7 boards a game. He has trouble on defense even though he tries his hardest. He just needs to strengthen the legs up, work on his boards. The scoring is there. He's a decent passer. You just can't tell.

At this point, I would rather lose Marbury than Frye, then set our sights on a point guard who lives to pass. But I do think that we would have to consider trading anyone on the team.

oohah

I wouldnt trade Frye for any player because it doesnt make sense--obviously were not getting guys like amare howard lebron bosh--and Frye is to young and good to be considered a candidate to be traded for a next tier age guy unless it was brand and we arent getting him

i dont even understand why some people have put up his name oooaha would probably trade frye for fatoine walker so he can watch him on his 0-12 nights.

I dont think nate, or frye should be traded for artest. Im positive that trading nate and or frye for artest would not make us a better team in any way. it takes more than a single talented player to make a team good. but thats probably a lesson the knicks will never learn

Seriously, you think that NR contributes more to winning than Artest? Or will anytime soon? Are you sure that you aren't speaking from the soft spot in your heart that likes 5'9" players, just like the rest of us?

Maybe one talented player does not make a team good, but it takes superior talent to win big. I would hate to lose Channing, I like NR, but I am a believer in talent over players I like.

oohah

Posted by oohah:

[quote] i dont even understand why some people have put up his name oooaha would probably trade frye for fatoine walker so he can watch him on his 0-12 nights.

Where does this come from? I would have to say you come up with more ridiculous trades/viewpoints in any given week than I have since I joined up.

How good do you think Frye will be? Throw out a name, like Garnett or Duncan for instance. Because it looks to me like you are bequeathing him franchise player-like greatness. He is a nice player, but I don't think he is as good as Artest.

And guess what? For all of Antoine's bad nights, he would be the best small forward on this team by a large margin. We wuldn't be wondering what to do. Funny how quiet you were were he began the season playing excellent. Oh that's right, you are keeping that spot warm for Josh McRoberts, even before he played a college game. Just take a look at the history Briggs, Youth does not equal championships. It actually usually include a sh!tload of losses. Talent equals championship contenders.

oohah


we have a lot of holes. fixing one hole--SF but eliminating another--PF isnt the way to go. i dont knoiw what frye will be, but hes better than i originally thought and im not trading him. hes not a KG type but what he is is a superior 6-11 offensive player and there are only a few of those.