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basketball IQ on this team is noticeably low
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BRIGGS
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12/10/2005  8:58 AM
as well as fundamental skills. we did a somewhat good job of slowing the pace in all 3 games, but other than JC's breakout 2nd half, the other teams were able to catch us as the defenses adjusted

i really do believe we need more defined vet players and I think bringing Frye of the bench--still maintaining that he gets 30+minutes, might be the way to go.
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franco12
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12/10/2005  9:04 AM
I don't think its an iq issue- I think its a familiarity, chemistry issue. there were a bunch of passes that turned into turnovers that I don't expect to see as this team plays together and gets in tune with each other.
BRIGGS
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12/10/2005  9:45 AM
Posted by franco12:

I don't think its an iq issue- I think its a familiarity, chemistry issue. there were a bunch of passes that turned into turnovers that I don't expect to see as this team plays together and gets in tune with each other.

thats kind of inane since pheonix has 10 new guys
on their roster. we could use 2-3 more young solid vets who know how to play
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12/10/2005  9:51 AM
NY is missing on the basic things like entering the ball into the post and someone anyone cut...
the stop underrating David Lee movement 1. FIRE MIKE 2. HIRE MULLIN 3. PAY AVERY 4. FREE NATE!!!
King1
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12/10/2005  12:23 PM
Briggs your exactly right no one has a good feel for this game. When yu have a Coach that wants you to play the right way it is a bad mixture. This team had 4 or 5 guys that wont be playing by the end of the year
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12/10/2005  12:27 PM
Yes, and it seems everybody knows what we are going to do in each posession.
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12/10/2005  1:20 PM
i agree our IQ is terrible... they posted up Mo Taylor in crunch time on a key posession... that shows u alot about our team we coudlent even get it to Curry... our post entry passing is horrible
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12/10/2005  2:27 PM
Briggs, Im ready to follow you in sticking my head in the oven and breathing deeply.
BasketballJones
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12/10/2005  6:18 PM
What the heck is "Basketball IQ" anyway? Is there a Basketball IQ test?
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12/10/2005  6:21 PM
Oh well, here it goes...... FRYE & ROSE is our only player with basketball IQ but Rose has no skill and Frye is still young
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12/10/2005  6:23 PM
Penny and AD have high bball IQ's too.
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BasketballJones
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12/10/2005  6:25 PM
So a player like Marbury is skilled, but has a low BBIQ?
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Knight
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12/10/2005  6:27 PM
Posted by BasketballJones:

So a player like Marbury is skilled, but has a low BBIQ?

Or he has some kind of test anxiety.
"He only went to Georgia Tech for one year, and that's an engineering school." -LB
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12/10/2005  6:29 PM
AD...... NO !! Penny..... amnesia has set in !!
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Knight
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12/10/2005  6:36 PM
Posted by OngBok:

AD...... NO !! Penny..... amnesia has set in !!

You don't stay in the league if you are both dumb and old...those players are one but not the other.
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12/10/2005  6:52 PM
Some of it has to do with the youth on the team, and some of it has to do with not having a true PG.
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12/10/2005  7:01 PM
Posted by OngBok:

Oh well, here it goes...... FRYE & ROSE is our only player with basketball IQ but Rose has no skill and Frye is still young

not sure how 2 players can be "our only player" but all I know is I watch the games and I see Rose making such terrible plays. He made 2 of the worst passes last nite. He has NO, or very limited basketball IQ.


[Edited by - BigRedDog on 12-10-2005 7:02 PM]
Briggs-- Frank is 2 yrs away from being 2 years away
McK1
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12/10/2005  7:13 PM
Posted by BigRedDog:
Posted by OngBok:

Oh well, here it goes...... FRYE & ROSE is our only player with basketball IQ but Rose has no skill and Frye is still young

not sure how 2 players can be "our only player" but all I know is I watch the games and I see Rose making such terrible plays. He made 2 of the worst passes last nite. He has NO, or very limited basketball IQ.


[Edited by - BigRedDog on 12-10-2005 7:02 PM]


or it could be he expects guys to gravitate to certain spots and they don't because not many of the Knicks players have any clue what to do if the initial 1 -on - 1 play is taken away by a good press, trap, or zone. There is a great degree of expactancy that goes along with running the motion offense.

Its kind of like a QB throwing 1 way and a receiver going another. Its not always the QBs fault. The wide receiver more often than not make the wrong "read" of what the defense is giving them.
the stop underrating David Lee movement 1. FIRE MIKE 2. HIRE MULLIN 3. PAY AVERY 4. FREE NATE!!!
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12/11/2005  3:46 PM
The Knicks need an aggressive initiating point guard

Jamal and Quinton in the backcourt in January

Qyntel Woods at point forward and Chan Frye at Sheed Forward

Eddy Curry at center with Jackie Butler in the wings
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BRIGGS
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12/11/2005  4:43 PM
[quote]
Posted by misterearl:

The Knicks need an aggressive initiating point guard

Jamal and Quinton in the backcourt in January

Qyntel Woods at point forward and Chan Frye at Sheed Forward

Eddy Curry at center with Jackie Butler in the wings



Knicks cant have a 20mm$ 20 point scorer coming of the bench and Woods has done nothing in the NBA to suggest anything.

If anything--what we could use is a couple of solid long athletic vets in their prime who play 2 ways, a rebounding PF and bring Frye in off the bench until he becomes more of a complete type player at that position--he can still get 30 minutes. I don't know about 80% of this roster--the jury is still out on a ton of it.
RIP Crushalot😞
basketball IQ on this team is noticeably low

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