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BRIGGS
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12/8/2005  12:26 PM
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12/8/2005  12:29 PM
why would they ever do that trade?
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12/8/2005  12:32 PM
Posted by NewYorkSoul:

why would they ever do that trade?


they likely wouldnt, but thats not an unreasonable package.
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12/8/2005  12:33 PM
of course. Both of those guys are basically expendable. But who is Mil's backup PG? and are they gonna rely on TJ ford that heavily when he hasn't had a full NBA season under his belt yet? I don't think so.
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12/8/2005  12:39 PM
how about Trevor Ariza David Lee for Mo Pete and a Raptor 2006 2nd round pick
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12/8/2005  12:42 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

how about Trevor Ariza David Lee for Mo Pete and a Raptor 2006 2nd round pick

Mo Pete is a shooting guard ain't he? If you are going to trade those 2 guys you need a SOLID 3 back, nothing less.
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12/8/2005  1:00 PM
no to all of the above trades....
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12/8/2005  1:04 PM
I think they need to rehab Stephs image, get his stats up - and ship him out. I just dont see this team surviving with him as the SG....PG maybe - but either way someone has to get traded to bring in a true SG. We have our bigs - Curry and Frye will be awesome for us. Now we need an impact SG, a serviceable SF - I think Q will be fine but I know a lot of people dont like him - and a decent PG.
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12/8/2005  1:24 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by BRIGGS:

how about Trevor Ariza David Lee for Mo Pete and a Raptor 2006 2nd round pick

Mo Pete is a shooting guard ain't he? If you are going to trade those 2 guys you need a SOLID 3 back, nothing less.

He's 6-7 225, much more 3, but has that solid outside shot and plays solid. Mo Williams--were not touching him.

My general hope is Isiah comes to the forefront here and dumps penny Davis and Malik ANyway he can to take those options away from Brown.
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12/8/2005  1:29 PM
I get to watch the Raptors pretty often up here. Mo Pete will drive you crazy if you're expecting any consistency on offense, but he is consistently a good defender. I don't think I'd trade Ariza OR Lee for him, though, let alone both of them for him.
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Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by martin:
Posted by BRIGGS:

how about Trevor Ariza David Lee for Mo Pete and a Raptor 2006 2nd round pick

Mo Pete is a shooting guard ain't he? If you are going to trade those 2 guys you need a SOLID 3 back, nothing less.

He's 6-7 225, much more 3, but has that solid outside shot and plays solid. Mo Williams--were not touching him.

My general hope is Isiah comes to the forefront here and dumps penny Davis and Malik ANyway he can to take those options away from Brown.


I agree, limit browns option of these clowns..
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12/8/2005  1:40 PM
Mo Pete sucks... we can do better than that.

If your willing to give up bigs then use a combo of Butler/Lee/Ariza to get Smith or Childress from the Hawks.
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12/8/2005  2:03 PM
Agreed. You're totally undervalueing Lee and Ariza. Both will be good players, or hopefully at least. Maybe nothing super special, but still solid. Mo Pete and a 2nd, no way. I think Fishmike is on a better track. Give me Josh Childress.
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12/8/2005  2:12 PM
Although Larry Brown keeps saying it, I don't think we need a PG at all, so my answer to that trade proposal is no.
Marbury/Crawford/Robinson is enough for me and that thing about none of them being a "pure" PG is BS to me.
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12/8/2005  2:16 PM
Posted by DarkKnicks:

Although Larry Brown keeps saying it, I don't think we need a PG at all, so my answer to that trade proposal is no.
Marbury/Crawford/Robinson is enough for me and that thing about none of them being a "pure" PG is BS to me.



I don't think they'd part with Mo Williams anyway, and while thats fair value for Mo pete and a raptor 2006 2nd rounder--likely 1-2 at the top 2---I still think if they were interested, they could use expiring.

I was thinking one more scenario

the Bulls with gordon who can play 6th man

they like David Lee a lot
do we throw them
David Lee
Ariza
Butler
SA #1 06

for
B Gordon
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12/8/2005  2:17 PM
Ben Gordon would actually be repetitive here. We need a real PG or a real SF far far more urgently.
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12/8/2005  2:19 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by DarkKnicks:

Although Larry Brown keeps saying it, I don't think we need a PG at all, so my answer to that trade proposal is no.
Marbury/Crawford/Robinson is enough for me and that thing about none of them being a "pure" PG is BS to me.

I don't think they'd part with Mo Williams anyway, and while thats fair value for Mo pete and a raptor 2006 2nd rounder--likely 1-2 at the top 2---I still think if they were interested, they could use expiring.

I was thinking one more scenario

the Bulls with gordon who can play 6th man

they like David Lee a lot
do we throw them
David Lee
Ariza
Butler
SA #1 06

for
B Gordon

haha, but only if the rescind that #1 exchanges for the next 2 years, right?


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12/8/2005  2:19 PM
Posted by fishmike:

Mo Pete sucks... we can do better than that.

If your willing to give up bigs then use a combo of Butler/Lee/Ariza to get Smith or Childress from the Hawks.

Smith stinks, and finally...finally is getting call out for it in Atlanta. I wouldn't trade Butler straight up for Smith at this point. I would do it for Lee but not all 3. Childress has talent but has a surprisingly low BB IQ. Going to cost Woodson his job.
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12/8/2005  2:22 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by BRIGGS:

[quote]Posted by DarkKnicks:

Although Larry Brown keeps saying it, I don't think we need a PG at all, so my answer to that trade proposal is no.
Marbury/Crawford/Robinson is enough for me and that thing about none of them being a "pure" PG is BS to me.

I don't think they'd part with Mo Williams anyway, and while thats fair value for Mo pete and a raptor 2006 2nd rounder--likely 1-2 at the top 2---I still think if they were interested, they could use expiring.

I was thinking one more scenario

the Bulls with gordon who can play 6th man

they like David Lee a lot
do we throw them
David Lee
Ariza
Butler
SA #1 06

for
B Gordon

haha, but only if the rescind that #1 exchanges for the next 2 years, right?


yeah, if they pick Adam Morrison and Greg Oden
they automatically become knicks as well.
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12/8/2005  2:29 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by DarkKnicks:

Although Larry Brown keeps saying it, I don't think we need a PG at all, so my answer to that trade proposal is no.
Marbury/Crawford/Robinson is enough for me and that thing about none of them being a "pure" PG is BS to me.



I don't think they'd part with Mo Williams anyway, and while thats fair value for Mo pete and a raptor 2006 2nd rounder--likely 1-2 at the top 2---I still think if they were interested, they could use expiring.

I was thinking one more scenario

the Bulls with gordon who can play 6th man

they like David Lee a lot
do we throw them
David Lee
Ariza
Butler
SA #1 06

for
B Gordon

If you had Ben Gordon would you give him up for those players? Those are all question mark players. We don't know what they'll turn into. Ben's already the 6th man of the year and ROY runner up.
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