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New York 25 25 13 8 71
LA Clippers 19 20 16 22 77
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NEW YORK KNICKS
STARTERS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
Stephon Marbury, PG 33 2-15 0-0 6-6 1 6 2 2 0 1 3 10
Nate Robinson, G 15 2-7 0-0 2-2 3 6 2 1 0 2 3 6
Antonio Davis, FC 17 2-5 0-0 0-0 3 4 0 0 0 2 3 4
Malik Rose, F 16 1-4 0-0 0-0 0 1 3 0 0 0 2 2
Eddy Curry, C 36 9-13 0-0 6-10 4 11 1 1 3 4 4 24
BENCH MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
Quentin Richardson, GF Has not entered game
Jamal Crawford, SG 35 2-11 0-2 7-7 0 0 1 2 0 3 1 11
Maurice Taylor, PF 20 2-4 0-0 0-0 0 10 0 0 0 1 3 4
Channing Frye, C 13 2-3 0-0 0-0 1 5 0 0 0 0 2 4
David Lee, F Has not entered game
Anfernee Hardaway, GF 20 3-8 0-0 0-0 0 2 2 1 0 1 2 6
Qyntel Woods, GF Has not entered game
Trevor Ariza, SF Has not entered game
Jackie Butler, FC Has not entered game
Jerome James, C Has not entered game
TOTALS FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
25-70 0-2 21-25 11 44 11 7 3 13 23 71
35.7% 00.0% 84.0% Team TO (pts off): 13 (10)


Two much playing time for AD & Rose but not enough for Frye and none at all for Butler & JJ !!!!

I believe that the reason why we lost is becuase as usual the knicks didnt put enough emphasize in controlling the pace of the game in crunch time. you see what happens is the knicks guards always overreact in cruntch time and try to do too much and stop doing what helps them. for example the 1st half of the game, marbury didnt dominate the ball and only scored when necesary, they went inside to curry often, and they moved the ball around alot. in the 4th quarter the guards stopped doing these things and went way too much one on one and played too fast. Im not saying its their fault though cuase last year marbs and craw did that all the time. but brown needs to realize this and they need to practice, executing on the road while under pressure.

[Edited by - slimpack on 12-08-2005 01:32 AM]

Total second half collapse. Once we barely survived the 3rd quarter we thought the game was over. When we couldn't buy a shot our guards were on panic and shot our way out to another loss. Frye not being involved on O was dumb and that goes to the coach! Steph was off but he still shot, thats also on him. Same with Crawford. A wasted great game by Curry. But its sad that we can't be more open minded about having our two best big men active and playing well at the same time.

We lost because the Clippers are better than us.

Posted by Knight:

We lost because the Clippers are better than us.

Wow! Great analysis, always!

We have no identity right now. The Clips are good? Fine, because they know who they are. We CAN be a very good team, like the first half proved, but we just can't keep an identity for a whole game, much less for a season...

Posted by crzymdups:

We lost because our best big man was on the bench because Brown was protecting him from Brand. We lost because Marbury hurt his shooting hand and shot 3-16 and Craw shot 2-11. The guys were tired from last night, so were the Clippers, but they picked their spots better, laid low the whole game and turned in on when they needed to.

Also, one of the worst reffed games I've seen in a while. Clips got a lot of calls. Oh well.

We did a good job in letting the refs in the game by playing a pathetic offense in the second half. And if Marb and Craw were tired, they should have created plays for others, like Frye. Its Brown's job to find ways to score, and he failed...

Posted by Knicksfan:

Posted by Knight:

We lost because the Clippers are better than us.

Wow! Great analysis, always!

It's a shorthand way of saying they are better than us in every respect. Fill in the details as you please.

100% agree with Nalod.
I guess Brown, Isaiah, and Dolan agree on the thing that this year will be no playoff and it will be used to develop young players, balance the roster and establish the team identity. And if it will take 2 years it is fine two. Our young players will gain more without the pressure to make playoff no matter what. Also this can help to make some multi-step trades without hurting any internal expectations.
Yesterday game was dedicated to Curry and Nate development and it was overall defensive training exercise for the team. I think they did a good job in this.
And if you a looking just for wins you will better be Spurs or Pistons fans.

Posted by arkrud:

100% agree with Nalod.
I guess Brown, Isaiah, and Dolan agree on the thing that this year will be no playoff and it will be used to develop young players, balance the roster and establish the team identity.

wow...no playoff? then why in the blue hell did we give up an unprotected #1 pick? not making the playoffs would be an unmitigated DISASTER for us.

guys, we lost because the guys were tired from playing their butts off the night before and none of their shots were falling. Brown's rotations were odd at points, and he was too overprotective of Frye, but it comes down to the fact that Steph and Jamal had nothing left in the second half after playing their butts off in Seattle.

I vote for this reason.

Posted by crzymdups:

guys, we lost because the guys were tired from playing their butts off the night before and none of their shots were falling. Brown's rotations were odd at points, and he was too overprotective of Frye, but it comes down to the fact that Steph and Jamal had nothing left in the second half after playing their butts off in Seattle.