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djsunyc
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12/5/2005  7:47 PM
2005-06 NBA "Roland Ratings"

Trying to build a comprehensive player rating scheme is no easy task. We'll admit to being partial to the excellent work done by Dan Rosenbaum with his ultra-sophisticated DanVal numbers, or gauging player efficency on a possession basis ala Dean Oliver.

In the past the "Roland Rating" has been simply the player's on court versus off court net team influence. That's a good number, but certainly not the whole story. Ideally a player rating scheme should encompass

- Inividual player production
- One-on-one defense
- Team success influence

The new charting experiments will allow us to evolve this rating over the course of the season to become more detailed and refined, for now we'll stick with some old standbys in a quick take on the early season action!


PER Difference On Court/Off Court Roland
Player Min PER Opp Net On Off Net Rating
Butler 14% 18.8 9.2 +9.7 +12.3 -5.4 +17.6 +11.6
Frye 52% 22.5 15.1 +7.4 +8.3 -15.1 +23.5 +11.4
Robinson 34% 10.5 13.5 -3.0 +6.8 -7.9 +14.7 +1.4
Marbury 81% 17.8 12.9 +4.9 -4.9 +5.3 -10.1 +1.1
Ariza 41% 11.0 15.4 -4.3 +5.1 -8.6 +13.7 +0.2
Crawford 62% 14.7 15.7 -1.0 -2.6 -3.6 +1.0 -0.5
Lee 17% 14.8 18.6 -3.8 +3.9 -4.4 +8.3 -0.8
Barnes 12% 10.6 7.0 +3.6 -19.8 -0.7 -19.1 -2.1
Curry 31% 16.2 14.7 +1.5 -12.6 +1.4 -14.0 -2.4
Rose 33% 9.4 14.0 -4.7 -3.6 -2.7 -0.9 -3.7
Richardson 43% 9.6 15.3 -5.7 -6.5 -0.3 -6.2 -5.8
Taylor 22% 9.1 20.3 -11.2 +1.9 -4.4 +6.3 -6.8
Davis 51% 9.2 17.5 -8.2 -19.9 +14.4 -34.3 -14.7
Hardaway 2% -3.3 19.2 -22.5 +2.9 -3.1 +6.0 -15.3
James 5% -2.3 19.0 -21.4 -10.3 -2.6 -7.7 -17.9

Legend:

PER = the player's PER rating based on a formula created by John Hollinger.
Opp. = the PER rating of the player's counterpart while on the floor.
Per Diff = the difference between the player's PER and his opponent's.
On = team net points per 48 minutes with the player on court.
Off = team net points per 48 minutes with the player off court.
Net = the on court versus off court difference.
Roland Rating = an average of the two ratings (2:1 Per Diff:On/Off).
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nixluva
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12/5/2005  8:10 PM
Man look at AD's stats :( Its just amazing how this guy is still starting for this team.
curry32
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12/5/2005  9:27 PM
starting doesnt mean jack shyt... its who finishes and its who plays the most minutes. many times the starters in larry's rotation dont play alot, AD is a great example
djsunyc
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12/5/2005  9:29 PM
Posted by curry32:

starting doesnt mean jack shyt... its who finishes and its who plays the most minutes. many times the starters in larry's rotation dont play alot, AD is a great example

how can you say that when we consistently go down 10 points in the 1st and 3rd quarters?
it's b/c that starting lineup is in there. IT DOES MATTER!!!
Allanfan20
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12/5/2005  10:37 PM
Starting strong is just as important as finishing strong. Being down 10 in the first quarter is a BIG DEAL.
“Whenever I’m about to do something, I think ‘Would an idiot do that?’ and if they would, I do NOT do that thing.”- Dwight Schrute
nyvector16
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12/5/2005  10:59 PM
I think Larry and Isiah are featuring AD to pump up his trade value...
It's been at least a couple of games where Larry gives AD much of the credit for a win, despite a total lack of production.
Obviously his large expiring contract makes him a nice trade asset.
As much as I hate seeing him take minutes away from Frye and to a lesser extent Lee, I can live with him getting alot of burn if it nets us a nice player... no pun intended
Rich
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12/5/2005  11:02 PM
Signing Butler may turn out to be one of Isiah's top three moves as GM.
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