what im saying is..we're giving him an opportunity to play...we're not telling him to come in here and bring neagativity into the locker room

but this is just a microcosm of what's wrong with our team in general.

when you're so far over the cap, like we are, you HAVE to take risks on the players you bring aboard. the only ones available more or less are ones with BIG RED FLAGS. there are some good kids out there (like butler) but the majority have issues. so when you get a jamal crawford, eddy curry, or even a stephon marbury, it's really b/c the other team DIDN'T WANT THEM. and there are reasons why. but we were in a situation, and still are, where those are the only type of players we could get. the only way we have full control is basically via the draft. but since we're over the cap and don't have a bunch of manageable deals, we have to take on these type of players.

so we're struggling and we're trying to find a diamond in the rough. but do you see the difference between us picking up a guy like qyntel or a team like the spurs? the spurs are filled with good guys that have won and won't take jack. we're filled with young kids who are impressionable and old dogs that need to be put to rest. does qyntel grow in this environment? but we have no choice than to go for guys like this b/c we're still a desperate franchise.

sometimes the moves work out, sometimes they don't, but it's a pretty high gamble none-the-less.

sometimes it really just makes me upset to see how we operate. yes, the young and athletic players, oh yeah, nice and sexy but man, why can't they also be young, athletic, and have the IQ to go with it?


[Edited by - djsunyc on 12-05-2005 5:45 PM]

he's an uber scumbag... no thanks.

I'm pretty sure Kidd didn't hit his wife for fun or sport and didn't place any bets on who the winner would be. There is something disgusting about having fun at the expense of the extreme suffering of another living thing.

give the kid a chance...what makes u think he hasnt learned his lesson....your acting like people in society havent done wrose things than him..but they get a pass...if he learned his lesson than thats good, if he doesnt he'll get cut...im pretty sure if the knicks sign him the contract will be non guaranteed like barnes

Isiah working him out means that he is not only going to be evaluated from a basketball standpoint, but also the human side. Im sure Isiah won't sign him if he still sees he is immature and isn't ashamed about what he did. If he is finally signed, it will be because he knows what he did was wrong and wants another chance.

Ohh, and another note about him being waved, if you see, the Celtics and the Heat didn't really need to gamble on him so they just didn't. They didn't need an SF. We do, so if he is signed, he will have many chances to prove himself...

Brownie, you're doing a hellova job

>>fishmike - he's an uber scumbag... no thanks.

uber scumbag? - you mean like the so-called leaders at the Federal level who abandoned the thousands of desperate children, adults and elderly in New Orleans?

Funny how much passion abandoning a dog can elicit

Sign Qyntel and teach him the Knicks way of doing things. If he learns we have a player. If he does not then we move on.

"This ain't charity" - Isiah Thomas



[Edited by - MisterEarl on 12-05-2005 8:46 PM]

Posted by Knicksfan:

Posted by Knight:

I'm pretty sure Kidd didn't hit his wife for fun or sport and didn't place any bets on who the winner would be. There is something disgusting about having fun at the expense of the extreme suffering of another living thing.

So that makes Kidd's actions excusable?

No stupid.

Point is they ARE different. Domestic disputes happen all the time and sometimes things get out of control. Hell, how do we know she didn't cheat on him or something.

Making money at the expense of another's pain is just plain sadistic. It's Hitler-cruel.

Dog cruelty is terrible. Beating your wife is worse. Raping someone is yet worse. And shooting someone in your house with a loaded shotgun tops them all.

Posted by efw:

Dog cruelty is terrible. Beating your wife is worse.

What?

B/c it's canine vs. human?

Thats BS.