Posted by crzymdups:

Posted by bobs3304:

^ A loss is never 1 persons fault....

Unless that person is Jay Fealy...

watch AD more closely in the next game. He destroys anything this team is trying to do. Steph can't even drive effectively with him out there, because he clogs the paint. he is awful.

Posted by McK1:

Posted by Marv:

i think this is constructive criticism. people are noticing just how incredible this kid can be and want him to make the most of all his gifts.

yep cause there's a thin line between Rasheed Wallace and Mark Blount

Player 48-Minute Production by Position
Position FGA eFG% FTA iFG Reb Ast T/O Blk PF Pts PER* 
PG            
SG            
SF            
PF 22.1   0.667   12.3   55%  2.5   0.0   0.0   0.0   4.9   41.7   35.5   
C 20.8   0.509   6.8   28%  10.5   2.0   2.5   1.5   5.9   26.8   21.8   

Opponent Counterpart 48-Minute Production
Position FGA eFG% FTA iFG Reb Ast T/O Blk PF Pts PER* 
PG            
SG            
SF            
PF 7.4   0.667   0.0   33%  4.9   4.9   0.0   4.9   4.9   9.8   16.4   
C 8.9   0.500   4.6   53%  10.7   1.5   3.8   2.5   6.4   11.5   10.2   

Posted by crzymdups:

Player 48-Minute Production by Position
Position FGA eFG% FTA iFG Reb Ast T/O Blk PF Pts PER* 
PG            
SG            
SF            
PF 22.1   0.667   12.3   55%  2.5   0.0   0.0   0.0   4.9   41.7   35.5   
C 20.8   0.509   6.8   28%  10.5   2.0   2.5   1.5   5.9   26.8   21.8   

Opponent Counterpart 48-Minute Production
Position FGA eFG% FTA iFG Reb Ast T/O Blk PF Pts PER* 
PG            
SG            
SF            
PF 7.4   0.667   0.0   33%  4.9   4.9   0.0   4.9   4.9   9.8   16.4   
C 8.9   0.500   4.6   53%  10.7   1.5   3.8   2.5   6.4   11.5   10.2   

this doesn't code exactly right, but maybe you can get an idea of Frye's excellence on both offense and defense from his offensive/defensive PER. The league average PER is 15. If you scorer higher, you are above average, lower and you are below. Frye plays the majority of his minutes at C according to this and his offensive PER is 21.8 and his defensive PER is 10.2. That is excellent.

edit: by his defensive PER is 10.2, I mean his counterpoint only plays to a PER of 10.2, meaning his counterpoint is playing well below the league average.

http://www.82games.com/0506/05NYK14C.HTM



[Edited by - crzymdups on 12-05-2005 12:28 PM]

[Edited by - crzymdups on 12-05-2005 12:29 PM]

Posted by McK1:

what a slanted measure, there are how many guys who play a majority of the time at center who score. Camby, Shaq, Bosh, Gasol,Duncan , J O' Neal, Krstic 7 out of about 60 centers in the league are considered scorers and 1 has only played 2 games.

Frye's future is at the 4, thats the measure to observe.

Posted by McK1:

Posted by crzymdups:

Player 48-Minute Production by Position
Position FGA eFG% FTA iFG Reb Ast T/O Blk PF Pts PER* 
PG            
SG            
SF            
PF 22.1   0.667   12.3   55%  2.5   0.0   0.0   0.0   4.9   41.7   35.5   
C 20.8   0.509   6.8   28%  10.5   2.0   2.5   1.5   5.9   26.8   21.8   

Opponent Counterpart 48-Minute Production
Position FGA eFG% FTA iFG Reb Ast T/O Blk PF Pts PER* 
PG            
SG            
SF            
PF 7.4   0.667   0.0   33%  4.9   4.9   0.0   4.9   4.9   9.8   16.4   
C 8.9   0.500   4.6   53%  10.7   1.5   3.8   2.5   6.4   11.5   10.2   

this doesn't code exactly right, but maybe you can get an idea of Frye's excellence on both offense and defense from his offensive/defensive PER. The league average PER is 15. If you scorer higher, you are above average, lower and you are below. Frye plays the majority of his minutes at C according to this and his offensive PER is 21.8 and his defensive PER is 10.2. That is excellent.

edit: by his defensive PER is 10.2, I mean his counterpoint only plays to a PER of 10.2, meaning his counterpoint is playing well below the league average.

http://www.82games.com/0506/05NYK14C.HTM



[Edited by - crzymdups on 12-05-2005 12:28 PM]

[Edited by - crzymdups on 12-05-2005 12:29 PM]

what a slanted measure, there are how many guys who play a majority of the time at center who score. Camby, Shaq, Bosh, Gasol,Duncan , J O' Neal, Krstic 7 out of about 60 centers in the league are considered scorers and 1 has only played 2 games.

Frye's future is at the 4, thats the measure to observe.

Posted by McK1:

Posted by crzymdups:

Posted by McK1:

Sheed didn't and doesn't have to shoot for Detroit to win.

Frye's competition in the paint over the next 10 doesn't include Reasheed. Guys like Jefferson Bosh Krstic and Dalembert are. Those 4 who are all basically the same age as Frye bang in the paint. Frye doesn't. Last I checked, rodman does not play 3 nor does Ben Wallace play 4. Frye has AD now but his long-term sidekick is Eddy "Stay Puff" Curry. Frye's going to have to start banging.

basketball 457

Yeah, yeah, great point, man. OH, wait, oops, too bad Dalembert tried guarding Frye and was ineffecitve and almost fouled out. OH wait, Sheed fouled out, too. Oh, hey, this is really strange, Tyson Chandler scored 0pts and fouled out against Frye too. Oh, WEIRD, Kendrick Perkins fouled out and Al Jefferson and Raef Lafrenz didn't do jack against Frye.

Dalembert does not bang in the paint. When Frye needed to take it inside against Chicago and Philly he backed his man down and scored.

And despite his horrid defense, I can't seem to find any big man who played well against him. And he has the best plus/minus on the team, and one of the best in the league.

You want to see poor interior defense? Check out Curry and AD. They both suck.

I think there still might be a seat left in Watching Basketball 101. You should check it out.

Dalembert was fresh off of an injury.

Don't recall what happened with Chandler, but I'll take your word for it. I do know 1 thing, Brown made sure he kept Frye off of Sweetney.

For all the hub-bub about Sheeds 3 points, the play that sticks out is how far Sheed pushed Channing under the rim when they were on the free-throw ine. Next time somebody from Detroit went, Larry Brown switchd the assignment.

As 4 the C's game:

Most of Perkins fouls were caused by switching on Marbury when NY ran pick and roll and bodying up Curry. Jefferson guarded the paint when C's went zone, also Butler and James in the post. They were rarely if ever guarding Frye.

I hope while you're in 101 they review several of your inaccuracies and don't let you pass until you clean them up.