Posted by McK1:

Posted by Killa4luv:

Posted by joec32033:

His game is totally different this year, stats may not reflect the improvement but his game is MUCH more efficient than last year. He is learning and right now we can't ask for more.

It is more efficient in that he is taking less shots and making a higher percentage. It is less productive in that he is scoring about 5 less points per game. Our second option cannot score 12 ppg if we are going to win. That is my point, bottom line. Efficiency is one thing, production is another. Consistancy is the icing on the cake. We need all three, not one or the other. At this point Frye is more efficient and productive than him. Crawford was brought here as a replacement for H20, and counterpart to Steph. He is not fulfilling his role and that is my main point. Maybe you and other guys are happy with him so far, but how I see it, whatever he is doing is not enough, imo.

[Edited by - killa4luv on 11-30-2005 1:24 PM]

Dumb premise by Isiah. Crawford wasn't a very good 2 guard in Chicago, why would he be any better in NY?

and before you say well he avg'd 17, look at the amount of shots he put up especially from 3. 39% streak shooter who is undersized for the 2 and plays 0 defense was not the perfect compliment to a non-physical zero defense playing Marbury?

[Edited by - McK1 on 11-30-2005 2:05 PM]

yeah but Jamal crawford isn't the reason the knicks are losing games.

Posted by SlimPack:

I suppose you could say he is a part but if so an extremely small part. the knicks in general are not playing to their potential why single out crawford?

Posted by Bonn1997:

I'd say much more than an extremely small part. He has every physical skill you'd need to average per 40 min #s of 22 Pts, 6 assists, 6 rbs, 6 FTAs, and 46% shooting. I don't mean to single him out; if people start threads on other Knicks, I'll give my opinions on those players to. But I do have very high expectations for Crawford because he has so many gifted skills and I have been disappointed in his performance as a Knicks from last and this year.


[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 11-30-2005 5:40 PM]

Posted by SlimPack:

Posted by Bonn1997:

I'd say much more than an extremely small part. He has every physical skill you'd need to average per 40 min #s of 22 Pts, 6 assists, 6 rbs, 6 FTAs, and 46% shooting. I don't mean to single him out; if people start threads on other Knicks, I'll give my opinions on those players to. But I do have very high expectations for Crawford because he has so many gifted skills and I have been disappointed in his performance as a Knicks from last and this year.


[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 11-30-2005 5:40 PM]

again, these things are a result of larry brown's rigid offense not Jamal Crawford. you really think that the knicks are losing becuase crawfords is scoring less? with that logic one could also say that the knicks are losing becuase of marbury, after all Our first option cannot score only 17 ppg if we are going to win, and his assists are down too, so why not blame him?. or, you know what? now that I think about it Malik Rose is the reason the knicks are losing, just look at the stats. last season he averaged 8.3 ppg whereas this season he is only averaging 4.2ppg. and how can we win games if one of our first guys off the bench only scores 4.2 right? or better yet, why not blame the losses on maurice taylor? afterall last season he was averaging 6.5 ppg and now is only averaging 4.3, surely his dropp off is a factor. look the reason the knicks are losing is becuase ALL of the knicks haven't been able to play as well as they did before cuase brown instituted a new philosophy on offense, a drop in their numbers is no reason to single any one of them out as being the reason that the knicks are losing.
[Edited by - slimpack on 11-30-2005 7:13 PM]

Posted by PhilinLA:

Mission accomplished. He, more than anyone, is improving under Larry.

Posted by misterearl:

Killa - Jamal rocks

He's only 24 and learning

Of course you mastered YOUR chosen profession at 24 right?

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by misterearl:

Killa - Jamal rocks

He's only 24 and learning

Of course you mastered YOUR chosen profession at 24 right?

Jamal's 25 and in his sixth season. Most NBA players don't turn disappointing careers around when they're that far into their careers, but it does happen occasionally.

WRONG!!!

Larry Hughes had his breakoutyear last yearand he was 26...and Jamal can develop into a larry hughes type player