I here guys blaming everyone but Brown.

Brown is the only coach still playing a wild rotation with no type of consistancy. No one knows their hand from the back of their head!

Even crappy teams like Toronto and Atlanta have a set rotation by now.

Frye earned his starting spot about 5 games ago. What does he have to prove to get the start and get over 30 minutes every night?


There is a whole thread right now about David Lee and what he can't do........Brown doesn't play him. David Lee before tonight was averaging 14 mins with 6rebs per. David Lee should be Fryes primary back up and should see time at the 3 on some nights.....

Butler proved that Brown is a ****ing idiot for keeping him on the bench for all this time. Butler won a shot at the rotation in pre-season!!!! Why was he in a suit for so long??!?!?!?

Why is Antonio Davis starting? Why is Trevor Ariza getting off the bench?

Rose's timing is back and he is solid but he should not be starting.

Let me help you Brown!!!

Start Frye, Q(now that he's healthy), Curry (when he is healthy), Marbs and Craw. Have Rose, Lee, Butler and Nate come off the bench......don't play anyone else unless there is a injury or foul trouble.

Let these guys learn what the hell you want them to do and let them find their groove in your system and ****ing gel!!!!!

Wake up and see what is going on here!!!!

Brown still can't get a rotation that has the best players playing? Fire his ass......They embarrassed Lenny Wilkins so why can't Brown get the heat?!?!?!?

What is going on with how this team is being prepared and coached? What is the game plan? What is the strategy?

Play the right way? How about coach the right way? Start with a damn rotation!!!!! Print this out and staple it to Larry Browns ass!!!!!!!

here's the thing - we are younger and more athletic but right now, we're not really using that to our advantage. there are alot of questions b/c we all don't know what's going on. BUT we have to give larry brown the benefit of the doubt - he is a hall of fame head coach (and not a lenny wilkens type of hall of fame either) and we KNEW that there would be growing pains.

the roster is flawed. our young guys are really young. our old guys are really old. and the guy in his prime (steph) is caught inbetween. what do we do?

Tough talk, wow! I think Brown has done a s*itty job so far as well. But he won't ever take the heat. Tell the media how Isiah sucks and there is no real talent. Look in the mirror LB. You are not helping so far. Take the job, take the job seriously.

When there is nothing to rotate, well, there is nothign to rotate.

Get real, IT does suck, and so does this team. If one of the best coaches is not enough to show you that, then I guess nothign will get it though your heads.

Posted by simrud:

When there is nothing to rotate, well, there is nothign to rotate.

Get real, IT does suck, and so does this team. If one of the best coaches is not enough to show you that, then I guess nothign will get it though your heads.

yeah, it's true, Detroit has really looked lost without Coach Brown this year. They were, like, bouncing passes off each other's heads tonight without his sage sideline wisdom...

ok, this is crazy. let's give LB a little more than 11 games fellas. patience.

if it still looks like this in april...well then, isiah will probably get fired but let's wait it out ok.

We're all mad at Larry right now for AD, Malik, etc. Let's give him a little longer.

Wake up!!!! Give Larry the benifit of the doubt because he has flawed players? But right away IT sucks and the players are flawed!

I give any man their respect regardless what they have accomplished or what "status" they have. But when a guy is ****ing up he is ****ing up. Larry is ****ing up.

Lenny Wilkins is not that kind of Hall of Famer? Wow!!!!!!!

Larry benched Carmelo, Lebron and Amare Stoudamire in the olympics......

Fire this ******* and get him out of my sight!!!!

the coach should coach the talent he has, not try to make points to the GM by starting Malik Rose at SF.

speaking of teams Brown made "better," in his first training camp with the Pacers he forced Donnie Walsh to trade Detlef Schrempf (sp?) to the Sonics for Derrick McKey. McKey never meshed with the Pacers, never turned into the third scorer they wanted him to be. Detlef went to Seattle and was the perfect third scorer next to Kemp and Payton and helped the Sonic to the best record in the league and to the Finals in 96.

Larry NEVER coaches the talent he has and he's NEVER happy til he gets "his" guys. it's a mistake to let him do that.

Eny...have alot of coffee today.....You got some pretty energetic posts going down right about now.

how many 3rd quarter mental lapse does it take before lb starts to take notice

this kind of rotation makes me wonder if lb has confidence in his players

if this was chaney, williams, or even wilkens displaying these kind of losses, half this forum would be going ape $h!t by now.......

and if you must blame zeke, blame zeke for not giving chaney the talent he needed