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djsunyc
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11/23/2005  10:31 PM
larry brown said nate is not a point guard. and it's not fair to him to play point b/c he wasn't expected to play point guard for us.

umm, hello, THEN WHAT THE F CK WAS HE SUPPOSED TO PLAY??!!?

it makes no sense.

as each day passes, the Q + nate trade looks worse and worse. not b/c i don't think nate will become a good player (b/c i think he will) but b/c IF we held on to kurt, we probably could've either used him now or made a better move later. this was probably the first deal that came across isiah's plate for kurt and he jumped at it.

i think nate will be ok but damn if he doesn't have a long long long way to go. "he's a highlight reel" - that's some pretty damning words. i think he'll be ok but he wasn't supposed to play point guard? huh? did i miss something?
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11/23/2005  10:39 PM
IT has a hardon for small PG's? IT hates KT? IT like making terrible trades?

Q sounds good on paper? I dunno really, but IT is awesome no matter what he does or what our record is with him as the GM.

A glimmer of hope maybe?!?
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11/23/2005  11:15 PM
Because Nate will put butts in the seats on account of his size and crowd-favorite stature. He's an attraction which = benjamins for MSG
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11/23/2005  11:17 PM
KT had to go. This may have been the only deal on the table. I wouldn't judge Nate or this trade yet. Nate has things to learn, but when he learns them he will be valuable.

Nate is an example of a rookie who needs to learn to play the NBA game. He'll get there. Q will be better too.
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djsunyc
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11/23/2005  11:18 PM
Posted by crzymdups:

KT had to go. This may have been the only deal on the table. I wouldn't judge Nate or this trade yet. Nate has things to learn, but when he learns them he will be valuable.

Nate is an example of a rookie who needs to learn to play the NBA game. He'll get there. Q will be better too.

i have no problems with nate. i like him. but i'm going by what lb is saying and it just left me scratching my head. i mean is lb trying to show up isiah?
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11/23/2005  11:22 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by crzymdups:

KT had to go. This may have been the only deal on the table. I wouldn't judge Nate or this trade yet. Nate has things to learn, but when he learns them he will be valuable.

Nate is an example of a rookie who needs to learn to play the NBA game. He'll get there. Q will be better too.

i have no problems with nate. i like him. but i'm going by what lb is saying and it just left me scratching my head. i mean is lb trying to show up isiah?

I have said this before, and people laughed at me as being paranoid, I think LB is trying to make certain points to Isiah by playing the PG and SF and PF positions the way he is. I think he's making cases for trades.

But the Nate thing is definitely more growing pains than anything.
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11/23/2005  11:24 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Nate never really was a point guard right? I don't think LB is saying anything new here.
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11/23/2005  11:30 PM
Nate isn't a position.

He can't be defined within certain borders.

He has SG and PG skills mixed with the highlight abilities of a Vince Carter.

THATS why IT drafted him.

It's too early to say it didn't pay off...
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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11/24/2005  12:10 AM
does lb have the time to refine the talents of young players...is that not what great coaches do

"Like they always say, New York is the Mecca of basketball,"I read that in Michael Jordan books my whole life and I played here in the Big East tournament, so it's always fun to play in the Mecca of basketball."---Rip Hamilton
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11/24/2005  12:11 AM
We traded one good player with 2-3 years left in him for two good players with a combined 20 years left in them.
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11/24/2005  12:13 AM
Posted by efw:

We traded one good player with 2-3 years left in him for two good players with a combined 20 years left in them.

i agree BUT with the way lb is using Q till now, it's like he doesn't want him around. and if he said nate isn't the point guard and we have a lack of backcourt depth, then if we do get a point guard, nate will get less than 5 mins a night. it just doesn't make any sense to me, that's all.

i like nate and i'm glad we drafted him, i just don't know what to make of lb.
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11/24/2005  12:17 AM
maybe it doesn't make sense now but

- nate is still a rookie. He may not be good for 3 or 4 years. Be patient with him. He's really going to help a team when he learns how to play in the NBA.

- I agree that Q is not being used properly here. He needs to be, at the very least, the 4th option. No one was scoring tonight. He hit 2 3s and then we never got him the ball again. inexusable.

- none of this means the trade was a bad one. As I said, you traded an old player for two young ones. You have years ahead that you can trade Q or nate. Right now you look at it as KT for Q and Nate but in the future, trading Kurt may have allowed us to get another, more important, piece.
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11/24/2005  8:56 AM
Hold on a second... Its not about the trade!
The trade was KT for Q + 21 pick.
The fact that IT asked them to draft N8 with the pick is
completely separate from decision to make the trade itself.
The trade was fine. If anything criticize the selection.
Funny how you guys want to avoid doing that lest IT lose his
status as "amazing draft picker." He could have drafted a
PG such as Luther Head or Jarrett Jack or gone a different
direction like Johan Petro or Wayne Simien.
djsunyc
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11/24/2005  10:26 AM
i actually feel bad for Q as lb has pretty much banished him in our offense.
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11/24/2005  10:35 AM
Posted by djsunyc:

i actually feel bad for Q as lb has pretty much banished him in our offense.


maybe because Q isnt being aggressive enough. So far this season he has only been to the line once. half of Q's shots are taken beyond the 3pt line. at least JC and nate move around the court, Q loves to just stand around. i would guess he still injured based on how he is playing.
djsunyc
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11/24/2005  10:36 AM
Posted by jaydh:
Posted by djsunyc:

i actually feel bad for Q as lb has pretty much banished him in our offense.


maybe because Q isnt being aggressive enough. So far this season he has only been to the line once. half of Q's shots are taken beyond the 3pt line. at least JC and nate move around the court, Q loves to just stand around. i would guess he still injured based on how he is playing.


i would agree with you but Q has actually gotten back in transition defense, leads our team in charges taken, and is still rebounding the ball. is he scottie pippen on defense? nope. but he's playing out there but on the offensive end, it's like he's just another body out there. this was supposed to be our starting SG.
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11/24/2005  10:48 AM
Posted by Panos:

Hold on a second... Its not about the trade!
The trade was KT for Q + 21 pick.
The fact that IT asked them to draft N8 with the pick is
completely separate from decision to make the trade itself.
The trade was fine. If anything criticize the selection.
Funny how you guys want to avoid doing that lest IT lose his
status as "amazing draft picker." He could have drafted a
PG such as Luther Head or Jarrett Jack or gone a different
direction like Johan Petro or Wayne Simien.


Salim stoudamire was there also. If he scouted Frye, he had to see Salim.
the stop underrating David Lee movement 1. FIRE MIKE 2. HIRE MULLIN 3. PAY AVERY 4. FREE NATE!!!
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11/24/2005  10:56 AM
Posted by McK1:
Posted by Panos:

Hold on a second... Its not about the trade!
The trade was KT for Q + 21 pick.
The fact that IT asked them to draft N8 with the pick is
completely separate from decision to make the trade itself.
The trade was fine. If anything criticize the selection.
Funny how you guys want to avoid doing that lest IT lose his
status as "amazing draft picker." He could have drafted a
PG such as Luther Head or Jarrett Jack or gone a different
direction like Johan Petro or Wayne Simien.


Salim stoudamire was there also. If he scouted Frye, he had to see Salim.
I was thinking the same thing about Salim. He would fit perfectly on this team.

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11/24/2005  9:25 PM
Everyone loved Nate in the offseason. Now it's eleven games in and we see no use for him? Come on. LB won't last more than two years. Nate might fit in great with the next coach.
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