Posted by Allanfan20:

Martin, the elbow is basically at the very end of the free throw line. The area of the elbow is about 15-17 feet away or so. Every single guard in the league should have a consistent elbow jumper, but they don't. But then again, it seems like nobody can hit a free throw consistently these days. Sad.

Posted by EWING33BXNY:




This kid needs to be involved in Kurt Thomas sort of way. Channing is just as aggressive as anyone else out there. He did a good job IMHO.

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by BRIGGS:

Personally Id like to se him shooting the ball 15-17 times per. He's got to be smarter in terms of staying away from the fouls and not over-relying on jump shooting, making sure a good deal of his game iies in the post where he can utilize his jump hook and get into position for rebounding the ball better[when you are taking to many jumpers--like rasheed it leaves you OUT of rebounding position, and with channings length, he could be a terror on the O glass] after watching and rewatching the utah game, I think it's pivotal that we get Channing a larger role in terms of attempts. Utah, to me, appeared to be an NBDL team. If we played even a half way decent team, we wouldve been beat by 10-20 points.

Briggs, didn't you say that Utah was an improved team with nice pieces. Now they are simply a NBDL team? I am not going to go back and get your quotes about trading the Knicks roster for Utah's but I think this point was harped on this forum more than enough last spring and around the draft.

now you are nit-picking man. I think BRIGGS was talking pre-injuries. At full force, they can be tough.

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by martin:

Posted by Pharzeone:

[quote]Posted by BRIGGS:

Personally Id like to se him shooting the ball 15-17 times per. He's got to be smarter in terms of staying away from the fouls and not over-relying on jump shooting, making sure a good deal of his game iies in the post where he can utilize his jump hook and get into position for rebounding the ball better[when you are taking to many jumpers--like rasheed it leaves you OUT of rebounding position, and with channings length, he could be a terror on the O glass] after watching and rewatching the utah game, I think it's pivotal that we get Channing a larger role in terms of attempts. Utah, to me, appeared to be an NBDL team. If we played even a half way decent team, we wouldve been beat by 10-20 points.

Briggs, didn't you say that Utah was an improved team with nice pieces. Now they are simply a NBDL team? I am not going to go back and get your quotes about trading the Knicks roster for Utah's but I think this point was harped on this forum more than enough last spring and around the draft.

now you are nit-picking man. I think BRIGGS was talking pre-injuries. At full force, they can be tough.


Also, I may have said something like that at the beginning of 2004-pre-season when they got Okur and Boozer to go with Kirelenko. Sure did sound like one heckuva frontline, but they just never played together because of injuries.

They have an injury prone team. You should take that into account beforehand. They way Kirilenko is built and the way he plays don't add up to durability IMO. Boozer should be more durable but hasn't been over the last 1.5 years.

Posted by martin:

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by BRIGGS:

Personally Id like to se him shooting the ball 15-17 times per. He's got to be smarter in terms of staying away from the fouls and not over-relying on jump shooting, making sure a good deal of his game iies in the post where he can utilize his jump hook and get into position for rebounding the ball better[when you are taking to many jumpers--like rasheed it leaves you OUT of rebounding position, and with channings length, he could be a terror on the O glass] after watching and rewatching the utah game, I think it's pivotal that we get Channing a larger role in terms of attempts. Utah, to me, appeared to be an NBDL team. If we played even a half way decent team, we wouldve been beat by 10-20 points.

Briggs, didn't you say that Utah was an improved team with nice pieces. Now they are simply a NBDL team? I am not going to go back and get your quotes about trading the Knicks roster for Utah's but I think this point was harped on this forum more than enough last spring and around the draft.

now you are nit-picking man. I think BRIGGS was talking pre-injuries. At full force, they can be tough.

I don't see it as nit-picking. He said the Utah roster was better based on the players. Many on this forum agreed. Injuries are part of the game. Good teams overcome injuries. Can't excuse the the Knicks record for the last couple of years because their "all-star" player was injured for the most of two years.

Then he makes this statement:

If we played even a half way decent team, we wouldve been beat by 10-20 points.

Why make that statement? If healthy would Utah be the class of the league?

As far as Frye is concerned. I hope he is getting as many touches as humanly possible. The same for Bynum with the Lakers. The comparisons on the pick starts. I just find it ironic that low ceiling Frye should now get the ball more.

FRYE VS. BYNUM TONITE!!

Martin you should put up that Bynum banner just for old times sake. Now that is nit-picking.

Posted by Bonn1997:


They have an injury prone team. You should take that into account beforehand.

Take that into account for what? Relax. Its clear that he meant the Utah team was good when healthy. And that may still come to pass this season. Take away 2/3 of the Detroit frontline and they'll be strewn to pieces as well.