strange. Was that a report or a talking head giving opinion? And why would they want to fire Zeke and why does that spell the end of Marb in NYC? Those things don't totally vibe.

this could totally be a leak BY THE KNICKS to put isiah in a situation where he has to move marbury. all the stuff lb is saying about steph,, about "not know what to do with steph", maybe to EASEN the burden on isiah WHEN he does move him.

Posted by djsunyc:

this could totally be a leak BY THE KNICKS to put isiah in a situation where he has to move marbury. all the stuff lb is saying about steph,, about "not know what to do with steph", maybe to EASEN the burden on isiah WHEN he does move him.

makes sense. I agree. It's strange though that the organization hasn't taken the time to see if they can move him to the 2, but maybe they have an offer (TOR?) on the table that is good enough and just need time to ramp up the "marketing" of the trade.

I been away the since Thursday and now I come back to this?! What is going on!

heck this could be a perfectly executed plan to get marbury out of town from day one.

i've had these theories for a while about isiah...how he has everything planned out way before it happened:

1. him and dumars working together to get lb to nyc
2. him and craw working on curry the entire summer to get him to nyc
3. him, h20, and dolan working out an agreement to not waive him and let him retire after giving it a "go" in training camp

this could've been planted from the get go.

lb taking the blame. lb talking about not know what to do with steph. dolan saying he's reached his limit at $120 mil. and now a leak that isiah's job is on the line. heck, even steph was like "i understand it's a business" when talking about the recent trade rumors. where the F did that come from?!?!?

this could all be a plan to LESSEN the blow on the organization to move marbury out of town.

After we win some games, maybe some of these wild rumors will cease.

this is good. We can start playing as a team now. Not a bunch of stagnant chokers! There's no way Isiah is getting fired. Even if this report isn't true it doesn't take a genious to realize Marbury is not wanted onn this team. He doesn't fit

Posted by djsunyc:

heck this could be a perfectly executed plan to get marbury out of town from day one.

i've had these theories for a while about isiah...how he has everything planned out way before it happened:

1. him and dumars working together to get lb to nyc
2. him and craw working on curry the entire summer to get him to nyc
3. him, h20, and dolan working out an agreement to not waive him and let him retire after giving it a "go" in training camp

this could've been planted from the get go.

lb taking the blame. lb talking about not know what to do with steph. dolan saying he's reached his limit at $120 mil. and now a leak that isiah's job is on the line. heck, even steph was like "i understand it's a business" when talking about the recent trade rumors. where the F did that come from?!?!?

this could all be a plan to LESSEN the blow on the organization to move marbury out of town.

The curry thing could not have been foreseen or there is absolutely NO WAY he signs James to 30 million. If there is even an hint that you may get Curry, you sign a center like Diop, Hunter, or one of those types. No way you sign James knowing or even thinking you have a shot at curry.

The LB thing, yes, defiitely because he waited and waited and waited some more and then it happened.

The H20 thing, definitely, I 100% believe that was a gentleman's agreement between the 3 of them.

Trading Stephon Marbury right now, would be disasterous from a PR, marketing, and revenue perspective. His jersey is the #1 seller, he is a bonafied star, and the Knicks are making money from the hype and hopes of being a good team. It doesn't make sense. If Dolan wants to save money (he has already saved alot with the JYD, and H@0 retirement) he can just have Isiah let our 30 million or so in expiring contracts, expire.

If we were winning would this even be a rumor anyone would give any credence to? No.

Winning cures everything, I don't believe this, I don't want to believe this, this rumor is making my stomach hurt.

We start winning, all of these rumors die.

I love the Knicks and put the team ahead of any individual player they have. I sadly watched us trade Starks years ago but I knew it was the right move for us to make.

Ever since Marbury got here, he has been one of my favorite players in this league and I don't want to see him go. Now, if the right deal comes up, I would understand and would be willing to trade Stephon just like in the Starks situation.

However, I'm sick of everying putting the blame on Steph. HE IS NOT THE REASON WHY WE ARE 0-5. If you guys want to blame someone, blame Larry Brown. I'm sick of this, Brown repeatedly says that he wants to get a better feel for this team, so he continues to play 11 players on any given night. He has been getting off easy though because he continues to let everyone know that its all about getting the team to play the right way (meaning Wins and Losses don't matter as much now because its all about the future). As a result of this, why is everyone surprised that we are off to such a bad start? Furthermore, why is Stephon getting blamed for this? We all know that we would be 4-1 or 3-2 right now if Larry Brown made the right moves (i.e. keeping Malik off the court in the closing minutes off a game). Instead of giving his players confidence, Larry is just confusing the hell out of them with no set rotation.

If we had a different coach right now, THERE IS NO WAY WE ARE UNDER .500. Yet, we conclude that Larry is doing all of this to get a better understanding of the team which will result in a much better team down the line. We all keep saying that the sacrifice (losing games right now) will be worth it down the line.

So why does everyone still blame Steph? He is playing his ass off each and every night and his improvement can easily be seen. In the Golden State game, Steph should have been the one with the ball at the end. We all know that. Larry was correct in pointing that out. Here is what I don't get, instead of going to the media and telling everyone about it, why doesn't Larry just shut up about it and instill some confidence in Steph and everyone else on this team because they desperately need it.

Don't get me wrong, I don't hate Larry at all. I'm glad he is our coach and I know he will make us a better team down the line. But I just don't get why he gets a free pass when Steph doesn't. We were all warned that this team would start off slow but that it would yield better results as we go along. I don't know about you guys, but everything seems to be going as predicted right now. Because of that, I just don't understand why everyone is so surprised.