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OAK
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11/12/2005  10:12 AM
Butler, who remained on the inactive list, impressed coaches during the preseason and could get a chance to become Curry's primary backup. "I want to get Jackie Butler out there soon," Brown said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/12/sports/basketball/12knicks.early.html

Pls inactivate Rose and play BUTLER!!!!!!!!!
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11/12/2005  10:13 AM
its about freakin time! hopefully rose played his way out of the rotation last night.
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11/12/2005  10:14 AM
Butler, baby. Rose needs to be shelved on tthe inactive list after that madness last night.
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11/12/2005  10:15 AM
hope Rose gets traded for ruben patterson straight up.
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11/12/2005  10:17 AM
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11/12/2005  10:24 AM
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11/12/2005  10:27 AM
It's weird. I thought MoT held the ball a little too much in the post, but I didn't really thing he was bad (like I think Rose, Penny are).
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11/12/2005  11:05 AM
LB must stop substitutions that like last night. Rose coming in when we are down one? We needed offense, not defense, and certainly not Rose's offense, which doesn't exist. Sure Malik is a body on D, but Curry and AD were closing up the lane down the strech and when Rose came in the lane opened up like the waters of the red sea. LB hasn't stuck with a team in the last 3 minutes of a game yet, I would love to see some consistancy to see what we are actually capable of, which I still think is alot. Plus the REFS suck! we should have gone to the line at LEAST 4 times in the first 5 minutes of the third quarter, instead the refs wanted Golden State to get back in the game, Stern needs to start getting some hate mail about the officiating in the NBA. Not just against the Knicks, but there have been at least 6 games lost this year at the end by a non call in the lane... Total BS. Replay anyone?! (kidding)
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11/12/2005  12:12 PM
Posted by LJforFOUR:

LB must stop substitutions that like last night. Rose coming in when we are down one? We needed offense, not defense, and certainly not Rose's offense, which doesn't exist. Sure Malik is a body on D, but Curry and AD were closing up the lane down the strech and when Rose came in the lane opened up like the waters of the red sea. LB hasn't stuck with a team in the last 3 minutes of a game yet, I would love to see some consistancy to see what we are actually capable of, which I still think is alot. Plus the REFS suck! we should have gone to the line at LEAST 4 times in the first 5 minutes of the third quarter, instead the refs wanted Golden State to get back in the game, Stern needs to start getting some hate mail about the officiating in the NBA. Not just against the Knicks, but there have been at least 6 games lost this year at the end by a non call in the lane... Total BS. Replay anyone?! (kidding)

I agree with the calls, in the beginning of the second half, at least 3 or 4 over the backs by GS players should have been called and a couple fouls that were commited agianst Marbury when he drove to the basket, it's been like that every game. I see players traveling on the opposing team not be called, at crucial points in the games, it's nonsense the breaks that the other teams get against the Knicks.

Anyways, I really like Butler, I want out there instead of Malik, he adds toughness, in the middle that Rose doesn't!.
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11/12/2005  12:27 PM
yea, the third quarter officiating was assinine, the warriors peitrus was all over the back, that guy plays like the neighborhood scrub, who is a good athlete, does nothing else, but is always climbing over someones back, he is a damn idiot... The refs aided his cause...
What bothers me about that game is that I honestly think we are better than the warriors, the third quarter has been our undoing, and I just don't know why... I hate to blame this game on rose, but he should not have been out there.. As far as taylor goes, he is just a fool, he refuses to pass the ball, in that awful third quarter, both he and penny were out there killing any rythm we had, penny with his bad passes and mo holding the ball until he is double teamed... just stupid.. why butler and lee are not playing is just mind boggling..

As far as jerome james, I am at the point of believing IT made a HUGE mistake, I watched Diop with the mavs now 4 times, and the guy is a much better player than james, he blocks shots, rebounds and he is much cheaper than james.. IT really layed an egg on this one.... No doubt!!
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11/13/2005  8:52 AM
Will Butler come off the IL and play today? My prediction is Yes.
He and Barnes need to be replaced on the IL by Penny and Malik.
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11/13/2005  9:02 AM
Posted by HARDCOREKNICKSFAN:

Will Butler come off the IL and play today? My prediction is Yes.
He and Barnes need to be replaced on the IL by Penny and Malik.


I agree. But Brown says that he likes Penny's "calming presence"....

Butler deserves minutes over guys like Rose/Penny/JJ for sure.
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11/13/2005  9:11 AM
Posted by OAK:

I agree. But Brown says that he likes Penny's "calming presence"....

Butler deserves minutes over guys like Rose/Penny/JJ for sure.

Penny can still have that "calming presence" on the team, just in a suit on the bench.

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11/13/2005  9:40 AM
Posted by martin:

It's weird. I thought MoT held the ball a little too much in the post, but I didn't really thing he was bad (like I think Rose, Penny are).
I agree 100%
Mo DOES hold the ball too long and it results in a major slowdown. Then guys dont crash the boards, the ball doesnt move ect.
Still I thought Mo did enough other things like draw charges and really play hard on D to merit him staying in the rotation


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11/13/2005  9:48 AM
Butler's definitely making his debut tonight...

From the NYT article I posted in another thread:

Although he did not say so outright, Larry Brown sounds ready to put the untested center Jackie Butler in the rotation. "Jackie Butler's played better than any of our bigs in the last two practices," Brown said. Butler is only 20, but team officials value his ability. He has been on the inactive list this season, which, Brown said, "might not be a very smart thing."


[Edited by - HARDCOREKNICKSFAN on 11-13-2005 09:48 AM]
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