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addition by subtraction - a marbury trade proposal
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djsunyc
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11/11/2005  10:19 AM
don't go crazy guys, it's just an idea that would work for us long term. i'm not saying we need to ship him out right away, it's just a thought.

marbury
#2 pick

for

jalen rose
mike james
#1 pick

toronto gets the best player, BY FAR and they get someone that will sell tickets for them.

what we get: well, first and foremost, take marbury out of the equation. (the writing is on the wall, it's gonna happen sooner or later). but we get a starting SF that can handle the ball and a defensive minded pg that played for LB. not to mention the 2 years we save on the cap.
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11/11/2005  10:26 AM
Marbury for Eddie Jones and Bobby Jax
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11/11/2005  11:27 AM
KEEP Marbury, and don't trade him for inconsistent, old, and overpaid 3rd tier players
djsunyc
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11/11/2005  11:28 AM
addition by subtraction.

unless marbury makes the transition to the fulltime SG, we are going to be stuck. that's the only way it will work with him.

with that said, i don't know if it will happen. and if it doesn't, we need to turn the page sooner rather than later.
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11/11/2005  11:46 AM
Posted by djsunyc:

don't go crazy guys, it's just an idea that would work for us long term. i'm not saying we need to ship him out right away, it's just a thought.

marbury
#2 pick

for

jalen rose
mike james
#1 pick

toronto gets the best player, BY FAR and they get someone that will sell tickets for them.

what we get: well, first and foremost, take marbury out of the equation. (the writing is on the wall, it's gonna happen sooner or later). but we get a starting SF that can handle the ball and a defensive minded pg that played for LB. not to mention the 2 years we save on the cap.

That deal makes a lot of sense. Toronto will get better and a good buzz. They could even make the playoffs. They at least get to save face with their fans.

We could use mike james, and Rose is short term cap fodder, and gives us a massive ending deal.

Dumping Steph is not going to yield anyting better.


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11/11/2005  12:06 PM
The Raptors will not make the playoffs since they would have Marbury on the team!.

Hasn't anybody figured it out when Marbury is on the team they have little to no chance of making the playoffs, it's a fact!. Let's dump this bum once and for all!.

I really wish Marbury would prove me wrong, but there is a reason why he has moved from one team to another after every 3rd season, he gets bored of everything on that team and the team suffers because of it, Marbury can not be re-trained or learn anything new where ever he goes, he is thick as a BRICK!.

[Edited by - attaboy2005 on 11-11-2005 12:09 PM]
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11/11/2005  12:19 PM
the only trade that makes sense, and I'm a HUGE marbury fan, is the Miami Heat deal. They get Marbs and we get walker and jwill.

But in the end, LB just needs to start using marbury as a shooting point guard that can create for others by forcing defenses to concentrate on stopping him from scoring.

TURN MARBS LOOSE!!!

We could use his 30 point outbursts...how come Phill isn't "breaking down" kobe? How come Pierce on the rebuilding celtics is still allowed to do what he does? Melo, lebron, they all have schemes designed for them.

The list goes on and on.

Why is LB trying to take away marbury's strengths to prove a point?

I'll tell you why...

Marbs strengths, while are able to guide us to a respectable .500 record and a .500 record gets you to the playoffs, I think LB is thinking beyond that.

Let the league think marbs isn't going to shoot, then when the time is right, HE EXPLODES.

trust me...it's not addition by subtraction, it's multiplication by division.

break the team down, build it back up. Instill the fundamentals, then let the athleticism and creativity ADD to it.

When the season starts to go on the grind and players get nicked up, the the teams that are the most fundamentally sound are the ones that continue to win games.

Not the ones that ride the pierce's and the Tmac's and the kobe's 30 point games.

[Edited by - rvhoss on 11-11-2005 12:20 PM]
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djsunyc
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11/11/2005  12:23 PM
antoine walker and larry brown is not like micheal jackson and paul mccartney.

toine would join the big game at the permanent inactive duty club.
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11/11/2005  12:25 PM
LB doesn't get along with anybody. He has to make this work, marbs isn't going anywhere this year unless the knicks are 5 - 15 after 20 games.

if he isn't averaging oscar robertson numbers (his last claim to fame) he should ask out of new york.

I would.
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11/11/2005  12:28 PM
He would take minutes away from Frye and Ariza and everyone else. No interest in Walker. I like that Marbury for James and Rose proposal though, with their #1 pick.
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11/11/2005  12:29 PM
what's the difference between marbs and jalen?
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djsunyc
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11/11/2005  12:30 PM
Posted by rvhoss:

what's the difference between marbs and jalen?

two years $35+ mil

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11/11/2005  12:33 PM
what's the difference between marbs and jalen?

Jalen has more versatility and his shot is a little better.
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11/11/2005  12:34 PM
Talent wise, Marbury is much much better. But we could use the contract, and Jalen could be a better fit for this team in the short term, as we desperately need shooters. Mike James is also real good too and Brown would love the guy.
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11/11/2005  12:36 PM
but the issue isn't who is a better shooter, the issue is who is a better leader. We know marbs is better at filling the basket than rose and mike james combined.
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djsunyc
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11/11/2005  12:36 PM
if something like this is actually being considered, then it is IMPERATIVE for this deal to get done this deadline.

babcock is on thin ice so he may be desperate.
the new guy they bring in eventually may want to make a splash like zeke did.

the timing is perfect for this deal this deadline. there is a small window for it.
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11/11/2005  12:37 PM
marbs won't report.
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11/11/2005  12:38 PM
why do the Raptors sacrifice 20 mill in cap space and the chance to be a player in free agency for a career loser in Marbury?
the stop underrating David Lee movement 1. FIRE MIKE 2. HIRE MULLIN 3. PAY AVERY 4. FREE NATE!!!
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11/11/2005  12:39 PM
We know marbs is better at filling the basket than rose and mike james combined.


Jalen is a baller I don't think he better than both of those dudes combined
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11/11/2005  12:39 PM
on quite frankly, marbs received the standing ovation of ovations.

Peter Vescey and a couple of message board posters (fantasy basketball Gm's) are the only people that think trading marbury is a good thing.

Enjoy the season, because marbury isn't going anywhere.
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addition by subtraction - a marbury trade proposal

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