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rvhoss
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11/10/2005  9:35 AM
When we had no centers (pre curry/frye/AD) I figured he was a high paid starting center, but a starting center nonetheless, but since I've been watching curry/frye and for that matter, trying to play with this guy on xbox, benching him every opportunity for frye, I'm all for this...

http://www.nypost.com/sports/knicks/57175.htm
JAMES IS BANISHED TO BENCH

PORTLAND — No one knows Jerome James better than Nate McMillan, his former coach. And the new Blazers leader thinks James might be sulking because of the Eddy Curry trade.

James, who played for McMillan in Seattle last year, was the only Knick DNP last night, and it looks like he's played his way out of the rotation for the near future.

The other 11 active Knicks each played at least 13 minutes.

McMillan's time with James included lots of ups and downs. James has had a terrible start to his Knick career after signing a $30 million contract.

"I felt like once they made the trade with Chicago that Jerome would feel he's not a big part of that team," McMillan said before the Knicks faced the Blazers. "They brought in a young center that probably they will look at as the future. I'm sure when Jerome signed, he looked at that as an opportunity to play and be the man, so to speak."

James was set back by reporting to training camp at 320 pounds. So far, he has been a foul machine, picking up 10 in just 18 minutes before last night.

McMillan said James always was frustrated with a limited role in Seattle.

"He's always wanted to be a bigger part of the team," McMillan sad. "He felt he could give just as much as Ray Allen and Rashard Lewis. When he went to New York, he saw opportunity to be a big part of the rebuilding. Once Eddy came in, all that changed for him."

Trade Rose and James to a front court depleted team December 15th.

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11/10/2005  9:41 AM
if he came in at 320 while listed at 275, he shouldve been suspended. right now there is only 1 measure, put him on IR and get him down to 270 so he can atleast give us his 15 minutes. how can someone give you 30 million $ and you repay them the next few months prior to your first game by not keeping in good shape? and hes sulking he wants to be the man? the guy moves like he has cement shoes
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11/10/2005  9:43 AM
This is why you don't trade for pieces of **** with self confidence issues after they get more money than they are worth....James was dissapointed after the Curry deal? A real athlete would have come into camp in great shape worked on his game so he would battle for the starting spot not roll over and die

Ala Jamal Crawford whose feelings were hurt because he wasn't starting.....

These two need to be shipped out so fast its not even funny, and funny thing is no team in the entire league is taking either of these losers we are stuck with them.....Isiah should be fired for this deal alone, how is it that everyone in the NBA, writers, 90% of the posters here advise against it and Isiah can do it.....is he qualified to do the job, not in the least bit, he is a good scout that should have been brought on for drafting help, other than that everything Isiah has done aside from bringing in Brown has been a disaster.......

He justified the Nazy deal by saying what would it have cost to resign him.....6-8 million? So we add Malik Rose at 6 million JJ at 5.1 million, no one has faith in the man and i am talking inside the organization......

You can't build a winner with Crawford, James, Taylor......Channing Frye should just get all his minutes, unreal
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11/10/2005  9:52 AM
Asked why James, a physical 7-footer, has never become a steady player, McMillan said: "I won't get into that. He's in New York now. Coach Brown will figure that out."

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/10/sports/basketball/10knicks.ready.html

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11/10/2005  9:54 AM
To think, there really were some who actually suppported this signing.
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11/10/2005  10:02 AM
to think? I was one of those that supported the signing. while I'm not suprised because I was well versed all summer from you guys at how much he sucks, since we got curry and frye, i don't care anymore.

Would he have come to shape in shape had we not signed curry? Ofcourse not. Could he contribute, definitely...he just may have to go back to contributing like he did in seattle, pick and rolls and blocking shots.

But with Frye playing so well above the rim and Curry with his back to the basket (9 rebounds?!?!?!?), who cares.

There has to be a way to ship Rose, JJ and [insert name] for miles.

Reading the papers, they are simply back and forth, they want an expiring contract, we want to unload bodies.
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11/10/2005  10:04 AM
Alot of us thought he was worth the risk. We had no big men at the time. I thought trading for Marbury was a good risk too--we could have missed the playoffs without Marbury's help.
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11/10/2005  10:06 AM
And we also could have had a shot at Okafor or Dwight Howard, w/o Marburys help.
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11/10/2005  10:06 AM
Even with curry there are more minutes at center than this sorry sack of Sheet can handle.

This guy is untradable right now. Or we have to take on a bigger piece of crap in return.

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11/10/2005  10:08 AM
Posted by Nalod:

Even with curry there are more minutes at center than this sorry sack of Sheet can handle.

This guy is untradable right now. Or we have to take on a bigger piece of crap in return.

If there was a bigger piece of crap out there I would agree with you.

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11/10/2005  11:00 AM
Posted by MS:

James was dissapointed after the Curry deal?


No, media sheep, we do not know this. This is speculation on Nate MacMillan's part. He very well may be right (I suspected as much myself when we traded for Curry), but be could be wrong as well. All this article has is what coach Nate thinks might have happened and (surprise surprise) we see people jumping up and down as if we just got a conclusive testimony from the man himself. Interesting to see how easily some folks will swallow the media pill. Come on, if you let Marc Berman do your thinking for you like that you're screwed buddy.
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11/10/2005  11:35 AM
Nate coached him for four years. The chance that he might have some insight into the man's psyche is not far-fetched.
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11/10/2005  12:04 PM
Posted by Allanfan20:

And we also could have had a shot at Okafor or Dwight Howard, w/o Marburys help.


Finally someone else sees it. That trade was so awful on so many levels.
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11/10/2005  12:50 PM
I'm sick of any article in the media defending JJ. We didn't sign Eddy Curry until training camp. So as far as Jerome knew, he was our starting center. How can you come into training camp at 325 after you promise all offseason that you want to be a key player on our team. What kind of work ethic and character is this?
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11/10/2005  1:03 PM
Posted by tomverve:
Posted by MS:

James was dissapointed after the Curry deal?


No, media sheep, we do not know this. This is speculation on Nate MacMillan's part. He very well may be right (I suspected as much myself when we traded for Curry), but be could be wrong as well. All this article has is what coach Nate thinks might have happened and (surprise surprise) we see people jumping up and down as if we just got a conclusive testimony from the man himself. Interesting to see how easily some folks will swallow the media pill. Come on, if you let Marc Berman do your thinking for you like that you're screwed buddy.



tom--you're dead on. the media knows crp. you've got the basketball corner covered with 82games.com and stats per 48 minutes. no way the knicks brass didnt up the ante with the bulls to keep lee, no chance. im really a bi-polar monk from Alaska gyrating from high to low on every dribble of the ball.
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11/10/2005  1:05 PM
Of course James was disappointed by not being the starting center of the Knicks--anyone player would be. Hell, Jamal cried over having to come off the bench too.
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11/10/2005  1:55 PM
Posted by realhiphop:

I'm sick of any article in the media defending JJ. We didn't sign Eddy Curry until training camp. So as far as Jerome knew, he was our starting center. How can you come into training camp at 325 after you promise all offseason that you want to be a key player on our team. What kind of work ethic and character is this?

The same kind of work ethic and character that he's exhibited his entire career. Not exactly a shocker, except to maybe Isiah and Bonnie.

That's a good point about the Big Stiff having plenty of time to get into shape before they traded for Curry.
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11/10/2005  2:10 PM
And like many others have said, he should be on the IR until he loses 50 pounds. He's just a waste of fouls and minutes when he's on the court now.
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11/10/2005  2:46 PM
Yeah it his Lame for James to show up so over weight after flapping his mouth about wanting to be the man, and show everyone how he apreciates being given the chance to start, but later on he showed IT and LB he wasn't serious about that that's why IT went for Curry. JJ made IT look bad, and IT knows he made a mistake, but what he can do about it is another story, It has shown he can unload a long contract in his short time at the Helm.
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11/10/2005  2:47 PM
the league seems thin at center as well...maybe nate would take him back to portland?
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