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Curry is killing us....................Where is the pick and pop/roll
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Killa4luv
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11/10/2005  12:54 AM
Until he steps up his play, we will continue to lose.
6 turnovers is unacceptable. Not to mention the missed shots.
He doesn't look comfy and it takes him too long to get position without fouling someone.

He needs to learn how to pass out of a double team.

Establishing him will open up the offense

Frye looked nervous on D shuffling his feet, buthe never looks nervouse offensively.
The pick and roll works well and Frye can hit his shots, why did we only get pick and roll?
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crzymdups
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11/10/2005  1:00 AM
I'd like to see more pick and pop between Marbury and Frye. Frye really needs to start next to Curry, it would give Curry space in the paint. AD just clogs the damn lane.
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11/10/2005  1:19 AM
yeah that first shot Fyre took was very nice, good light, and a nice arc, plus most of all he looks and does it very comfortably. They will get the chance if they keep up the intensity they are bringing out there
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martin
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11/10/2005  10:16 AM
The weird thing is that Frye and Curry are the SAME AGE (5 months apart). If we had drafted Curry say at 5 and he was either starting or coming off the bench and playing the second unit (against second unit guy), we would all be singing his praise.

The guy needs to learn some fundementals and get into shape (6 months of not doing anything and then trying to get in shape in 2 months at the professional level is INCREDIBLEY hard).

Time will tell. In years, not days.
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Nalod
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11/10/2005  10:21 AM
Curry talks with his mouth full and puts elbows on the table!

We need to trade him to atlanta for unprotected pick and Marvin Williams!

djsunyc
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11/10/2005  10:25 AM
i have never seen a big man with weaker hands.
martin
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11/10/2005  10:32 AM
Posted by djsunyc:

i have never seen a big man with weaker hands.

weak hands or does he not keep the ball high enough? I thought he was stripped cause he brought the ball too low.

I can't believe he can't take contact and finish though.
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crzymdups
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11/10/2005  10:44 AM
yeah, Curry actually has some of the best hands I've ever seen. His problem is all fundamentals of playing in the post. He needs to keep the ball higher and make some passes out of the triple team to keep teams honest. Hopefully, Aguirre is working with him.

I'm with Martin. I think if Curry was available in this draft as a college senior, he would have gone no.1 overall (possibly no.2 after Bogut). We have to basically realize how young he and Frye are and how good they can be not just for the next ten games but for the next ten years.
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11/10/2005  10:53 AM
Posted by crzymdups:

not just for the next ten games but for the next ten years.
nuff said
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MS
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11/10/2005  10:55 AM
Fact of the matter is that Curry will never be in shape now that he has a contract, he was out of shape every year until last year, in which he was taking weight loss supplements the entire season in hopes of finding a GM crazy enough to pay him......

Curry doesn't try defensively rarely uses his body to keep people off the glass and doesn't like passing the ball out of the post......so yes he has missed time but thats no excuse for always being out of shape
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11/10/2005  11:04 AM
Posted by MS:

Fact of the matter is that Curry will never be in shape now that he has a contract, he was out of shape every year until last year, in which he was taking weight loss supplements the entire season in hopes of finding a GM crazy enough to pay him......

Curry doesn't try defensively rarely uses his body to keep people off the glass and doesn't like passing the ball out of the post......so yes he has missed time but thats no excuse for always being out of shape

we should ask Green of 76ers about that.

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Killa4luv
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11/10/2005  11:23 AM
Posted by martin:
Posted by djsunyc:

i have never seen a big man with weaker hands.

weak hands or does he not keep the ball high enough? I thought he was stripped cause he brought the ball too low.

I can't believe he can't take contact and finish though.
He gets the pass high, brings the ball low and then tries to dunk it or lay it in.

Timmy D gets the ball high, keeps it high and shoots. Same with Rasheed Wallace. Curry absolutely needs to learn that. He needs to learn how to play defense too.






Silverfuel
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11/10/2005  11:51 AM
Posted by Killa4luv:

Timmy D gets the ball high, keeps it high and shoots. Same with Rasheed Wallace.
That turnaround jumpshot Rasheed hits looks great man. He has such a high release! If only Curry can do that someday, he will score anytime he wants. He doesnt have to because he is more of a power player but still...
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11/10/2005  1:12 PM
6 turnovers is unacceptable.
Until we have at least one shooter to help spread the offense, the other team will collapse on him in the low post. Shaq's TOs would go up drastically in this situation too (albeit maybe not to the level Curry's TOs are at)
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11/10/2005  1:18 PM
Posted by Killa4luv:

Until he steps up his play, we will continue to lose.

Same goes for Steph and Jamal.


Another season, and more adversity to persevere through. We will get the job done, even BETTER than last year. GO KNICKS!
Curry is killing us....................Where is the pick and pop/roll

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