Posted by islesfan:

Yeah, because moral victories will get us to the playoffs.

This was a year to contend. I know how you feel, I want more then ever to see this team in the playoffs, but I think there are some really good signs so far from the rookies.

The East is so competetive this year that EVERY game counts. To waste these opportunities is disgraceful.

This is not an issue of patience, it is an issue of retarded coaching.

Posted by Knight:

This is not an issue of patience, it is an issue of retarded coaching.

Well if your going to be calling Larry Brown a retard then this is where the argument stops. Theres a reason he was voted the best coach in the NBA in every category by the GMs of the NBA. He knows what he's doing.

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by Knight:

The East is so competetive this year that EVERY game counts. To waste these opportunities is disgraceful.

What everyone seems to forget that we all knew coming in that it was going to be hard the first half of the year but the Knicks are showing some good signs. They just held 2 great scoring offenses to 85 poitns and under, the rookies are making their marks and really starting to get some burn. The Knicks were not and will not win a championship this year either way. Rebuilding takes PATIENCE, why can't anyone have any here? I guess the age-old argument is true with NY fans. They have no patience for rebuilding.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 11-06-2005 3:50 PM]

rebuilding means actually playing the young guys and not spending huge$$$$ on guys like mo Taylor Jerome James et al maybe the light has shined that the vets actually do sck sans 1 or 2

Posted by NYKniCksFan87:

Isles...seriously....u want the knicks to do well, but are u really a knicks fan..good things take time to happen...most knick fans are stupid..if a team went 72-10...half the guys here would be whining about why we couldnt win those 10 games....we will get better give it some time..o yeah stupid ****ty ass rose

i wouldn't question another fan's loyalty. i have been a knick fan for years. how did you feel the past 4 years about our team? did you like the losing? i am ashamed to say that i became complacent with the losing the past three years and this is the one year in a LONG time that i have hope. so yeah every loss hurts. the point is we are not going to be 72-10. we are 0-3 with a lot more negative signs than positive when the schedule is going to get harder. so i have a right like everyone else to be unhappy with the way they are playing.

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by Knight:

No, he admitted that he didn't know who to play.

And your point is. Theres 3 or 4 players that he barely had in the training camp. We all know the guy is very meticulous, he needs time to see who he wants in the game, thats why he said what he said.

My point is that if he didn't see that the young players were playing well he is mentally retarded--severely.

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by Knight:

The East is so competetive this year that EVERY game counts. To waste these opportunities is disgraceful.

What everyone seems to forget that we all knew coming in that it was going to be hard the first half of the year but the Knicks are showing some good signs. They just held 2 great scoring offenses to 85 poitns and under, the rookies are making their marks and really starting to get some burn. The Knicks were not and will not win a championship this year either way. Rebuilding takes PATIENCE, why can't anyone have any here? I guess the age-old argument is true with NY fans. They have no patience for rebuilding.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 11-06-2005 3:50 PM]

rebuilding means actually playing the young guys and not spending huge$$$$ on guys like mo Taylor Jerome James et al maybe the light has shined that the vets actually do sck sans 1 or 2

Players 25 and younger played 150 of the 240 total minutes. Last game it was 136 minutes of the 240. He is playing the young guys. After complaining that we need to rebuild apparently what you really meant was we have to rebuild and win at the same time.

Posted by Knight:

This is not an issue of patience, it is an issue of retarded coaching.

I didn't like Larry's subs in the end, but this is an extremely unfair point. If we were in position to win the game in the first place is because of Brown teaching this team how to defend. Larry is a great coach, he just trusted on his veterans on a bad moment. Even he has to know that by now. Anyway, if we have been competitive this year in the first place it has been because of him.