Posted by oohah:
My personal opinion,what I mean by hedge, is that if we are not good the next two years--even if we hit the number 1 pick in the draft--its chicago's--forget the 2nd round picks--
And what if we don't get the number one or a lottery pick?
if ANYONE think that potentially two top 10 picks or higher are worth less than David Lee, you are out of your gord.
Are you talking about the value of the picks themselves? Or the players? How can you judge the relative value of players who don't "exist" yet to players who do?
1-2 players CAN change a team around, it happens EVERY single year.
True, but very infrequently are those players rookies...
David Lee is NOT that type of player, he is an undersized 4 who cant shoot, hes could be a nice complimentary piece who brings athletiscm and energy, but he is no high caliber prospect.
I agree with that, I think people have been a little over-excited about Lee, like he is the next coming of Tom Chambers. Once again: How is David Lee undersized?
Sometimes, especially with this organization, they just go for the now--everything is now, and I understand what i am saying here--knowing lee is young and also can be considered a future asset for the knicks, but we didnt trade him at the hedge of a much higher prize.
But you are describing a very risky hedge...it requires that that the Knicks are terrible and then they have to pick a great player who turns it all around. Not likely.
Exactly why we didnt take bynum, and exactly why were not very good.
If he plays here, I think Lee will help this team more in the next 3 years than Bynum will help his.
One thing at a time here. I like Devin Harris,
Ain't no way we are getting Devin Harris. He is Dallas' point guard of the future.
[quote]I do know Dallas will need toughness and a guy like antonio davis MIGHt be the difference for them, add in Lee and nate for some yoot to add it up with kvh as the trade $.
We give Dallas a guy about to retire and two unproven players for one of the bright young talents in the league and an established player like Van Horn? I really don't know if Mark Cuban likes crack....
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It seems to me that the type of player we need, the type of player you have described, somebody to ease Marbury's scoring duties, someone to help the Knicks rebound and handle the ball--->(Church Lady Voice) could it be....ANTOINE WALKER!!!!
Remember when we argued about that for a week? You gave me all sorts of candidates who would be better for us...including JOSH McROBERTS, MIKE SWEETNEY, and STROMILE SWIFT. I noticed you ignored my Antoine Walker thread BRIGGS...So did you tomverve.
oohah
I didn't notice your antoine walker thread, I dont know what you wrote, but my opinion on him doesn't change, I don't like him.
i think sometimes things might appear good on paper before a season starts, happens in every sport. every fan gets excited, of course they WANT their teams to do well. but the realization comes when you see a team like washington having you down 20 at home on opening night without one of their best players--
I think our hope for the future lies with eddy curry and frye. I think they need to really be brought along at warp speed. the rest of the team is a mish mosh mess. we needed those picks more than we need Lee. i think its possible we dont have the right combination of 1-2-3 players- i like ariza off the bench--kind of like a new age bruce bowen type who could eventually take a larger role. Nate should be a good spark plug once he gets his mid range j down-he has the mentality of a winner. the rest of the team is an expensive collection of castoffs that wont win--we needed a flush and fill--but we keep adding the mo taylors jerome james nazr's bakers malik rose tim thomas's why do we need picks/ because this organization sans curry's heart problem has had 0 success on anything but the draft. so if we had to give up lee to keep that hedge we shouldve. i think crydumps and I both like crawford, but i think we both realize he is done here with brown and who knows what will happen with brown isiah. larry brown even said he doesnt know who to play. i just hope he realizes that frye should start @ 4.
devin harris, probably no way to get him-just thought that maybe with terry being young as well, we might be able to entice them, but not likely. like i said the other day were more likely to end up with the kenny thomas's and theo ratliff's of the nba.
11/5/2005 9:40 PM
