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11/6/2005  4:06 PM
Posted by Travla:

LB trusts the vets, I'm sure he thought that they would hold on and win the game. I think he brought the vets back because he feared that the "kids" would wilt under the pressure that he knew GS would bring in the final minutes. Yes. it ultimately turned out to be a bad decision but that's part of the game. When these guys learn to play with pride and execute properly, things will be ok......it's gonna take time!!

In a tied game, crunch time is the whole 4th quarter. The younsters were amazing on that stretch. The vets had done nothing THE WHOLE GAME. Come on! It was just a 3 point lead and we need offense to keep up, yet he takes Frye to get in Rose? Please!
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11/6/2005  5:14 PM
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Posted by simrud:

I just don't get this. If this continues Brown must be just gettin too old. He coached like a senile bastard today.


this is the reason I wanted Isiah to coach this team. We would've won![:

Hey Ariza didn't start your suppose to be boycotting!

Relax. Everyone wanted a younger team more athletic team, with more size, more youth and a better coach. We've got all those things. It's just unrealistic to expect everything to come together after a preseason and three regular season games. I'm sure you're very intelligent and all but I have to say I have a lot more faith int the senile bastard then I do in you and the other posters ready to Tar and Feather him after losing three games with a team that nobody outside of this board expected to start well.

I have to say I was so-so on IT. But I thing overall he's done a great job. We have some exciting young talent and a great coach. Give it a little time.


I'm very glad we have Larry but I was concerned about him overplaying the guys who I hate with a pasion like Malik over better players and so far thats exactly whats happening. I hope after this game he realizes that the only way this team wins is with the young guys


He did play Rose at a crucial time. But Rose only played 4 minutes!
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11/6/2005  5:29 PM
He did play Rose at a crucial time. But Rose only played 4 minutes!


from watching rose since he came to the knicks, he deserves no minutes. i understand why the spurs wanted him to fly the coop


honetly right now the players who have been pi$$ poor have been

Q James Rose

we could use a 2G who can drive shoot the mid range and play D, we have no one on the roster who can do that, richardson really is a 3 or a specialty 2 he doesnt have the Allan houston type shooting skills or dribbling skills to be a good 2G, especially since he plays D like a dog.

Rose is 6-4

James well James, well James, im lost for words there--he beat a team with his playoff run--happens every year
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11/6/2005  5:44 PM
Guys, guys, guys. Patience is going to be the buzz word for these knicks. The good news? Brown is letting the vets make the case that they don't deserve time. Lee, Frye, Ariza and Nate are EARNING their time over the vets. If they had just been awarded the time to start the season, the vets could have griped. Now, Brown can say he gave them a fair chance and they stank. Bottom line: 3 games into the season and the rooks are playing what we hoped they'd play. The way things are going, they'll probably be playing far more than we hoped very soon.

The first two months are going to be a learning process, hopefully we can stay within punching distance of a playoff spot and make a strong run to end the season. But either way, this season is about developing the young guys and living with the bumps along the way.

My guess: the next time the young guys fight to get us back in the game, Larry lets them finish what they started. I'm pretty happy that Brown has played the rooks this much so far. How much worse would we feel if we'd lost these last two games by 20 and Frye and Lee hadn't seen the court? It's not that bad and it's going to take time to get better.

Frye and Lee look like the real deal. The only thing I can't understand is why Mo T was deactivated. Mo T actually played okay. Rose is a joke. He shouldn't play again this season. Lee, Frye, Curry and AD is clearly our front rotation, with Mo T coming in for scoring or foul trouble and JJ coming in to guard a guy like Shaq.

Going by today, can anyone deny Craw looks like the odd man out in this lineup?
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11/6/2005  6:41 PM
I think Mo T wasn't 100% healthy, so he was deactivated at least for today...
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11/6/2005  6:43 PM
Posted by crzymdups:

Guys, guys, guys. Patience is going to be the buzz word for these knicks. The good news? Brown is letting the vets make the case that they don't deserve time. Lee, Frye, Ariza and Nate are EARNING their time over the vets. If they had just been awarded the time to start the season, the vets could have griped. Now, Brown can say he gave them a fair chance and they stank. Bottom line: 3 games into the season and the rooks are playing what we hoped they'd play. The way things are going, they'll probably be playing far more than we hoped very soon.

The first two months are going to be a learning process, hopefully we can stay within punching distance of a playoff spot and make a strong run to end the season. But either way, this season is about developing the young guys and living with the bumps along the way.

My guess: the next time the young guys fight to get us back in the game, Larry lets them finish what they started. I'm pretty happy that Brown has played the rooks this much so far. How much worse would we feel if we'd lost these last two games by 20 and Frye and Lee hadn't seen the court? It's not that bad and it's going to take time to get better.

Frye and Lee look like the real deal. The only thing I can't understand is why Mo T was deactivated. Mo T actually played okay. Rose is a joke. He shouldn't play again this season. Lee, Frye, Curry and AD is clearly our front rotation, with Mo T coming in for scoring or foul trouble and JJ coming in to guard a guy like Shaq.

Going by today, can anyone deny Craw looks like the odd man out in this lineup?

Good post crzymdups. I agree.

About that last point, its getting sad but its true. He will have to make an amazing improvement between now and the trading deadline to save his career as a knick. Its getting obvious Larry doesnt trust his ballhandling and decision-making as a PG, and doesn't trust his shot as a backup SG...

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11/6/2005  6:59 PM
Q hasn't been that bad.
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11/6/2005  7:05 PM
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11/6/2005  9:08 PM
Posted by rvhoss:

Q hasn't been that bad.


Today he was terrible, but the thing with him isn't if he is good. Im afraid he is not ok health-wise, and without him we lose a lot iin terms of shooting, especially 3pts...
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11/6/2005  9:28 PM
By PETER VECSEY

HOOP DU JOUR IT HAS become painfully obvious Home Town Brown had a more cohe sive unit going for him in the summer on the east side of Long Island than Isiah Thomas has assembled for him on the west side of Manhattan.

The Knicks are not only without a victory in two skirmishes coming into today's fortuitous face off with the Baron Davis-less Warriors, they're without rhyme, reason and rotation.

As Brown repeatedly and none too cryptically forewarns, a starting lineup has a way of working itself out. Without uttering a syllable, the same can be said about his team's irregular rotation and, for that matter, an entire undermanned, 15-player roster.

In fact, the Knicks' consecrated coach already began weeding his new Garden only three sterile halves into the season. Channing Frye, buried in Boston, suddenly was turned loose on the Wizards for seven points and nine rebounds in 18 minutes. Why the abrupt about-face regarding the team's top draft pick? And, as long as we're on the same touchy subject, why was David Lee attired in business casual when the season started?

I'm glad I asked.

Considering both rookie pawns distinguished themselves during the preseason, some of you might've found it odd Brown deactivated them at a time when it might make better sense for their adoptive parent/authority figure to be exhaustively encouraging.

Most basketball pedestrians never would've chanced shaking the confidence of Frye and Lee. Then again, most of us, I'm guessing, never coached an NBA and NCAA champion, or are Hall of Fame inductees. In other words, as always, I'm perfectly willing to extend Brown the benefit of any doubt re: roundball subterfuge, especially when it pertains to psychological strategy of this type. Surely there's a method to his madness . . . I think.

Had Brown gone with his rookies or his other younger players from Jump Street. he'd leave himself wide open for compelling criticism from his vets. Despite Jamal Crawford's confusion, Quentin Richardson, Antonio Davis, Jerome James, Maurice Taylor, Malik Rose and yes, even Stephon Marbury either will justify their existence between the lines, or play themselves out of minutes or quite possibly off the team.

This way the coach gave them an opportunity, so it's all on them. Yo, respect; that's what it's all about. If the vets can't get it done according to Brown's scrupulous specs, if they can't be successful individually and directly affect the team's improvement, and do it in a jiffy, then they can't pitch a legitimate bitch when they're replaced, some sooner than later.

Frye isn't the only Knick whose situation radically changed. Looking at the pair of box scores since the season started, you see a wide disparity in minutes among several players, even with the Celtics game going into overtime.

Trevor Ariza's daylight jumped from 17 to 30, Rose 5 to 16, Taylor 22 to 11, Eddy Curry 42 to 16 are the ones that leap off the ledger. Of course, it didn't help that Curry was a foul magnet Friday against Washington, or that Jesse James has been served seven infractions in his whopping 11 minutes.

Silly me, I thought the only things James could pick up that fast were seconds.

Not to say that Brown isn't making progress. He's finished second twice in New York, so already he's exceeded his resume in Athens.

Still, one step in the right direction isn't going to satisfy Next Town Brown for long. If the Knicks don't evolve more than glacially during their upcoming six-game ("Say No," campaign James Dolan) west coast trip he look revert to his glory days in Detroit. You remember: No Darko, no Arroyo, no Delfino, yes Mayo Clinic-o.

Indications are that time already is drawing near. After all, Michael Brown left FEMA, Aaron Brown is leaving CNN and Larry Brown has left every place else.

*

The Nets took some heat about announcing an Opening Night full house. Column castigator Frank Drucker doesn't see a problem "since the team sold out Jersey a couple of seasons ago."

Donald Sterling, owner of my beloved Paper Clips, has to fork over $5 million in plaintiffs' attorneys stemming from a suit claiming he discriminated against black and Latino tenants. To his credit, Sterling claims he didn't sexually harass any of 'em. Shaquille O'Neal is expected to miss 2-4 weeks after spraining his ankle while coming down on Ron Artest's foot. "I was stunned Artest was on the floor, not on the scorer's table," Shaq exclaimed.

As prophesied in this space the other day, the 76ers shall never recover from their opening-night tank job against Milwaukee. Philly followed that one up with a 20-point loss at Detroit and a pathetic 17-point home defeat to Charlotte. Count the OT against the Bucks and the Sixers have been outscored in 11 consecutive "quarters."

Come back, Roy Rubin. All is forgiven.

Memo to Doc (Cry Me a) Rivers: Next time it might be a good idea to contest the inbounds pass. After eyeballing how Tayshaun Princeeffortlessly found a cutting Rip Hamilton, who drained the game-winner at the buzzer, I offer this unsolicited suggestion: Put someone, anyone on the ball. I'd even settle for Mike Dukakis in an oversized helmet on a tank. Thanks for listening.

In case you missed it, Jayson Williams sold his Jersey mansion for a reported $8 million. From what I'm told he had a difficult time driving up the price because he had such a hard time just getting anyone to drive up.
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11/6/2005  9:35 PM
posted already nalod...
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11/6/2005  9:48 PM
Posted by teslawlo:

posted already nalod...


Im spreading the gospal to those who need to see the sense of brown. He knows exaclty what he is doing!
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