I think both Ariza and Frye proved their points tonight with some strong efforts and solid performances. Channing was really impressive being so active on the rebounding department and we all know he can shoot. He can really be great in the future, but now he still may be the best option we have at PF. I know Larry plays the vets because he expects them to commit less turnovers and be more ready in tight spots in the final minutes, but he may soon have to accept the fact that his most talented players and the ones really ready to give their all for playing the "right way" are the rooks. Somewhere sown the road, Larry has to start Ariza and Frye. Both! We have shown to need offense, and Frye brings that. Also, as he proved tonight, he is going to work hard in rebounding and defense, something that Brown has to love. Ariza has his own ways to score even though he still has to work on his jump shooting. He is still one of the best defenders we have, and also one of the best rebounders.

I really believe that our best starting lineup would be Marbury, Richardson, Ariza, Frye and Curry. Barnes shouldn't play much. Neither should Rose. Davis will, and he is still important, but limit his minutes, we need him the whole year. Craw has to keep learning and show improvement soon because he is really in danger of being traded. Curry needs to get in game shape because we need him at least for 30 minutes a game. James has to freaking cut with those stupid, silly fould he gives up so fast. He seems to love to foul people and call it defense, but really good defensive players stay in the game for most of it. He is in real danger to lose his spot to Butler...

Rose is terrible. I yelled about his terrible play all night tonite. He has got to go. He adds nothing to the team becuase he cant shoot or rebound especially well, let Frye take his minutes and Lee/Butler can mop up the rest.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 11-04-2005 11:52 PM]

Posted by Knicksfan:

I think both Ariza and Frye proved their points tonight with some strong efforts and solid performances. Channing was really impressive being so active on the rebounding department and we all know he can shoot. He can really be great in the future, but now he still may be the best option we have at PF. I know Larry plays the vets because he expects them to commit less turnovers and be more ready in tight spots in the final minutes, but he may soon have to accept the fact that his most talented players and the ones really ready to give their all for playing the "right way" are the rooks. Somewhere sown the road, Larry has to start Ariza and Frye. Both! We have shown to need offense, and Frye brings that. Also, as he proved tonight, he is going to work hard in rebounding and defense, something that Brown has to love. Ariza has his own ways to score even though he still has to work on his jump shooting. He is still one of the best defenders we have, and also one of the best rebounders.

I really believe that our best starting lineup would be Marbury, Richardson, Ariza, Frye and Curry. Barnes shouldn't play much. Neither should Rose. Davis will, and he is still important, but limit his minutes, we need him the whole year. Craw has to keep learning and show improvement soon because he is really in danger of being traded. Curry needs to get in game shape because we need him at least for 30 minutes a game. James has to freaking cut with those stupid, silly fould he gives up so fast. He seems to love to foul people and call it defense, but really good defensive players stay in the game for most of it. He is in real danger to lose his spot to Butler...

I could not agree with you more. AD has been playing good, however we need Frye's offense in the beginging of games. Frye can spread out the offense with his shooting ability and he can run the pick and roll. The pick and roll was our strongest element last year, yet we have not included it into our offensive plays that much this year. If we are going to run the pick and roll we either need a shooter like Frye or much less Mo on the court. Frye has play well yet his reward for play well has been him seeing more time on the bench.

As far as Barnes, he has been trying. The only problem is if you have AD and Barnes on the court the offense become stagnant. With AD and Barnes on the court it makes it hard for other players to score, because the person guarding either AD or Barnes know they are not a threat on offense.

Posted by s3231:

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Trevor can really be a very good player in this league. People think he is just an athletic freak that can't shoot the ball, but they are dead wrong. He is a playmaker and brings intangibles that aren't seen in the boxscore. I think Larry has or is at least starting to realize this since he gave Trevor 30 minutes last night.

agreed and hallelujah!

anyone else think that Channing plays like Rasheed and that Ariza plays like Tayshaun?

No I don't.

oohah

I like the idea of Ariza and Barnes competing for time @ the SF. The competition will only make them bothe better, benefitting the team.
I'd like to see their numbers after a season of steady comp in practice vs eachother.

Posted by NewYorkSoul:

anyone else think that Channing plays like Rasheed and that Ariza plays like Tayshaun?

Channing's and Ariza's upside might be Rasheed (in Portland) and Tayshaun but they have a long way to go to get to that level.