Posted by islesfan:

They can work together, just not at the end of the game and especially with the ball in Crawford's hands. He's probably the dumbest and most careless player to give the ball to in crunch time.

Unless Q was just so winded that he couldn't play at all in the last 8 minutes then he should have been in there instead of JC.

I think it was also LB not wanting Q to hurt that Hammy again. We could have used Q big time down the stretch.

Marbs played masterfully down the stretch so I don't know what you're talking about MS.

Stephon was good down the stretch. My only beef with him in the clutch was that he couldnt hit a free throw. And what was up with the turnovers in OT? I hope this changes very quickly. I dont want to deal with another losing season.

I have said it here many times, Crawff and Marb is not a good combo. When Crawff is in the game, Marb tends to take a back sit just to allow Crawff to operate. He is a horrible decision maker and shouldn't be on the court at the same time with Marb. Marb was forced to guard a much taller and strong Davis or Pierce, all because Crawf is too weak to guard his position. I think that if Brown is going to substitute a player at the SG position, the rotation will have to be between Reezy, Barnes and Q. Bring Lee back and play him mostly at the SF position with Frye rotating from the PF and Center position. Frye can best serve as a PF especially when either Curry or Davis are on the court playing the Center spot. We got outrebounded because Barnes, Crawf, Marb, and Curry weren't boxing out. I can't blame Marb too much, because he was way too short to guard Ricky Davis and Pierce who are both 6'7".

he used all his energy on defense. Pierce missed just as many. Curry as well. For me it was turnovers and rebounds.

We got it to overtime with all the missed ft's, in overtime they just wanted it more.

But you have to admit, crawford had a couple of "strange" turnovers. And that kid is in love with the alley oop.

One big worry is watching the bucks and other teams...they all seem to be having fun. The knicks seem to be working...i don't think crawford is a fan of working, I think he excels in a wide open game where a turnover isn't a big deal (see seattle and phoenix), now that it's a new structured regimen, he may end up being the odd man out and may actually WANT to be traded.

I wouldn't blame him...though Nate seems to take it well...marbs had a standard marbury game...I think it's true he takes a backseat to Crawford, but that's the new marbury, everybody hates it when he's being Starbury and playing as if he is the best player on the team...also, I think LB told him to be Starbury for a couple of stretches as well.

Good Road game in a hostile environment.

I'll accept the marbs missed free throws as a stat that sticks out, but you have to also look at the missed dunk (killed momentum), the crazy turnovers and the second chance buckets.

One game down, 81 to go...that was one of my 50 wins btw. Looks like 49.

no doubt (yes it's back, with Briggs and Dido getting all the shut the phuck votes, I figured I'd sprinkle it in randomly, but why no eff Oohah? That's who I stole it from...or maybe it's because I stole it...)

he used all his energy on defense. Pierce missed just as many. Curry as well. For me it was turnovers and rebounds.

Pierce missing free throws gets you even more aggravated about Marbury's free throw shooting woes. He's a professional PG. He has to be shooting 80%. Curry should be shooting 68 - 73%. We could have won the game if it weren't for missed free throws.

The rebounding is a different story. James just sucks. Antonio Davis is getting older by the minute. Taylor was NEVER a good rebounder and Rose is a f'in migit. So what do you friggin' expect to happen? These guys aren't going to magically going to become better, so if you want the rebounding, put Frye and Lee in who at least hustle their arses off, and play hard on D as well. The bumps and bruises will be there in the beginning, but in the end, it's for the best!

Posted by Allanfan20:

he used all his energy on defense. Pierce missed just as many. Curry as well. For me it was turnovers and rebounds.

Pierce missing free throws gets you even more aggravated about Marbury's free throw shooting woes. He's a professional PG. He has to be shooting 80%. Curry should be shooting 68 - 73%. We could have won the game if it weren't for missed free throws.

Marbury's been around 80% FT for his whole career. Everyone is going to have an off game at the line. If this continues all year for Marbury, I'll get on his case as much as anyone. But I'm willing to accept one off game at the line from anyone. It doesn't mean I wouldn't want him to spend an extra hour today working on the FTs, though.

Last season Marbs and Craw were one of the best backcourt combo's in the league, averaging 38.4 pts and 12.5 asst. With LB wanting Marbs to play more of a shooting guard role this season, who else but Craw is available to play point at times? These guys will share plenty of court time together whether some of you like it or not!!

Posted by Travla:

Last season Marbs and Craw were one of the best backcourt combo's in the league, averaging 38.4 pts and 12.5 asst. With LB wanting Marbs to play more of a shooting guard role this season, who else but Craw is available to play point at times? These guys will share plenty of court time together whether some of you like it or not!!

The 38.4 doesn't mean much to me. Marbury was very efficient on offense last year but if you chuck up as many shots as Crawford did, you *better* be scoring a lot of points and hitting far more than 38%. As for the 12.5 assists, about 70% of them were from Marbury. By combining the stats of Marbury and Crawford, all you're really doing is obscuring the fact that Crawford was mediocre last year but the backourt #s when combined with Marbury's look good (as would *any* starting SGs #s when combined with Marbury's).

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 11-03-2005 8:19 PM]

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by Travla:

Last season Marbs and Craw were one of the best backcourt combo's in the league, averaging 38.4 pts and 12.5 asst. With LB wanting Marbs to play more of a shooting guard role this season, who else but Craw is available to play point at times? These guys will share plenty of court time together whether some of you like it or not!!

The 38.4 doesn't mean much to me. Marbury was very efficient on offense last year but if you chuck up as many shots as Crawford did, you *better* be scoring a lot of points and hitting far more than 38%. As for the 12.5 assists, about 70% of them were from Marbury. By combining the stats of Marbury and Crawford, all you're really doing is obscuring the fact that Crawford was mediocre last year but the backourt #s when combined with Marbury's look good (as would *any* starting SGs #s when combined with Marbury's).

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 11-03-2005 8:19 PM]

Agreed.