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BRIGGS
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10/29/2005  7:36 PM
first off, i dont want to concede any games playing the roster to showcase a player.

if they feel that they are going to have troubles winning--then play the young guys--it worked GREAT for the Bulls last year--we need more athletiscm and speed in the SL.



i know we were a turnover mess, and at this point I think LB needs to scale back his offensive reads because its causing hesitations which leads to TO. break when its there, if you can run, always run. go into the post heavily with Curry and Bynum and if nothing si the move the ball. we dont need to conform to defenses --lets just play smart simple basketball right now and if they want to add more diversity during the year, cool, but not at the cost of wins.

I feel we have guys we can win with now. I dont think the excuses need to be mae about inexpereince--I think if we put the right talenst on the floor--we will do well

I think we should play 10 men

I think the line up should look like so

C-Curry
F Frye
F Ariza
G Craw
G Marbury
F Davis
F Taylor
F Q
F Barnes
G Nate
foul trouble James-needs to get in shape to crack rotation, butler, lee, Penny

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next--im a homebody, but i believe we should scout Marcus williams intensely during the year--he'll be back for the big east---he is exactly the type of pG Larry wants a guy who passses rebounds and controls tempo,and also play a big 1 6-3 205 and has a very high, high basketball IQ--I think for this to work, we may need to explore moving marbury during or post year and bring in a bigger PG, more athletic wings and get a lot of expereince for the guys here.

That being said, we should win now--we can win now and we should win now


simplify--go young and athletic--have the vets off the bench--get that energy into the game early--try to get channing and eddie as vocal points

were shifting away from marbury to the post--this will pay off at some point--
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tomverve
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10/29/2005  7:44 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

go into the post heavily with Curry and Bynum




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SlimPack
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10/29/2005  8:25 PM
I think he ment frye, anyway I agree with him I think Brown's trying to turn players into things that they are not, for example marbury into a passing PG, and penny into a serviceable player. the only happy moments in the preseason I can remember were when the rookies where playing, I hope larry Brown figures things out quickly , although its hard to argue with a guy of his experience.



[Edited by - slimpack on 10-29-2005 8:36 PM]
Rich
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10/29/2005  8:29 PM
I don't mind showcasing guys, but not at the expense of giving Frye major PT. The kid is showing star potential.
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10/29/2005  8:42 PM
Ya....Penny has no business being showcased.....unless its on a meat rack.

Crawford seems to be thriving under his new niche as a PG.

Marbury doesnt have a choice anymore - he has to do the little things to help us win. Score when its necessary, make the extra pass, play D, rebound, move without the ball, BE A CAPTAIN!

I really hope LB doesn't try to change Nate...b/c we NEED him to dive after loose balls and play with that energy and enthusiasm and abandon.

DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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10/29/2005  8:52 PM
Posted by tomverve:
Posted by BRIGGS:

go into the post heavily with Curry and Bynum




Where's your head at?
Now that's a slip!

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10/29/2005  9:38 PM
C-Curry
F Frye
F Ariza
G Craw
G Marbury

Yep sign me up!!! Frye has a better upside than chandler and eddy and him went off last year. gonna take time though. i could see AD starting right away instead of frye. However, i do agree with briggs' rotation. Would like to see Lee instead of MO T but that is not realistic right now.

This team defintley could use one or two more tweaks and Curry to stay healthy!!!
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10/29/2005  10:26 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by tomverve:
Posted by BRIGGS:

go into the post heavily with Curry and Bynum




Where's your head at?
Now that's a slip!

actually, kwame's game last night was no slip. bynum may have a hard time finding minutes since kwame looks phil jackson ready


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10/30/2005  5:14 AM
I wish the Knicks had been able to add both Curry and Kwame this offseason. You can't have too many bigs with huge upside.
joec32033
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10/30/2005  7:45 AM
Bonn that would be an AWESOME frontline, if they could both live up to their potential, or a HUGE bust if they don't...besides, if we get Kwame we don't draft Frye.
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McK1
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10/30/2005  8:16 AM
Posted by joec32033:

Bonn that would be an AWESOME frontline, if they could both live up to their potential, or a HUGE bust if they don't...besides, if we get Kwame we don't draft Frye.

not necessarily true.

Frye could come off the bench and still log 27 mpg in a 8-9 man rotation.




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Bonn1997
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10/30/2005  8:30 AM
Yeah, I don't think it's necessarily true. I think when you have the opportunity to grab bigs with high upside, you don't worry about distributing the minutes. That will work itself out.
Who would you rather have: Kwame or Frye? I think Kwame has much more potential on defense and Frye much more on offense. Frye's known for having the better attittude and motivation. But Kwame has a more natural, gifted basketball body. I really like Frye but I think it would be hard to turn down the chance to get a 22 year old (same age as Frye) with the basketball body Kwame has.
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10/30/2005  8:39 AM
Posted by McK1:
Posted by joec32033:

Bonn that would be an AWESOME frontline, if they could both live up to their potential, or a HUGE bust if they don't...besides, if we get Kwame we don't draft Frye.

not necessarily true.

Frye could come off the bench and still log 27 mpg in a 8-9 man rotation.




Here's how I come to that conclusion. The Wiz got a young swingman for Kwame, and a PG....Based on that for us to get him it would have cost us at the very least either Ariza or Crawford (prolly Ariza plus a big man) meaning we now have a whole at back up SF and we have on our roster Sweets, Kwame, Jerome, Butler and at SF Q, which means by all intents and purposes we draft a SF like Green, Graham or Granger, IMO

[Edited by - joec32033 on 10-30-2005 08:40 AM]
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McK1
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10/30/2005  8:47 AM
Q for Kwame and NY still has Ariza, signs Barnes, and still has the pieces to do the Curry trade.
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joec32033
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10/30/2005  9:00 AM
OK...and we still have a hole at the 3 AND the 2 and we are still backlogged at the big spots, not to mention that Q has a big contract that Washington didn't want ( I mean look at what it got back 2 smaller, ending contracts!)

Q or Ariza, my point stays the same. there is still a hole in the frontcourt that would have to be filled throught the draft. Ridiculously, If we traded for Kwame, I think our whole draft is different where we draft Granger at 8, and that affects everything after 16 so Nate may not be there at 21...

[Edited by - joec32033 on 10-30-2005 09:05 AM]
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McK1
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10/30/2005  9:33 AM
see your point.

let me ask u this:
If things went differently, how would drafting Danny Granger be a bad thing. He may end up being the best player in that draft. Frye was a solid pick but Granger has the type of game to make 9 or 10 out of the 14 GM's picking prior look like idiots including IT.

And defensively Brown at the 4, Granger at the 3 with LB coaching without question would be a nightmare for opposing front-courts.

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