Imo, the Knicks looked very bad last night. As soon as Dallas picked up the D (this is Dallas, not quite the best defensive team in the league), the Knicks couldn't score and could hardly even get in their offense. No rhythm, no aggressiveness on the offense.

On "D", Dallas shot poorly in the first 1/2, which made it look like the Knicks were shutting them down. Wasn't the case.

I didn't see any signs that we're starting to gel or establish an identity. Closes thing to an identity was the 2nd unit, hustlin, pushing, playing out of control, but making enough good things happen so that the bad didn't look so awful.

Only positive signs I took from the game. AD still has some game left. His "D" and rebounding were solid. Marbury isn't forcing the ball at all (though when he doesn't force, he tends to get passive and it seems like we're not taking advantage of his talent.)

The only people who should be worrying are the players--Larry will make them play the right way or they won't be playing in a Knicks uniform for very long. With Larry and Isiah in charge we will see winning basketball--those guys hate losing more than anyone.

Worried about what?

The knicks should be struggling now. They are young, with new roles, a new system, and a major philosophy overhaul.

life is so much easier when you have a complete player on the floor who is a superstar lol

haven't had one since Ewing. spree and H20 were all right but they weren't kobe, lebron, mcgrady, carter, AI

Posted by Silverfuel:

Dallas scored well in the 3rd and the Knicks O & D both sucked. Thats not the reason the Knicks had trouble scoring. The Knicks started having trobule scoring when they took Curry out.

That is absolutely positively NO EXCUSE. Curry hasn't been playing a ton of minutes during pre season in the first place. We have 3 penetrators on the team, and we have a couple of other guys who can put the ball in the bucket. So if we're not scoring when Curry is not on the court, it's b/c the guys are playing with their heads up their arses as opposed to losing his presence.

Secondly, this thread is madness. It's the freaking pre season. We've shown glimpses. Guys on the team still have to get in shape. It takes friggin' months and even a year or 2 for a whole new team to gel. Not 4 pre season games. Our guys are young, and Larry admitted that they pretty much don't know how to play and he even said it's going to take time. We don't have Houston, let alone a healthy Houston. It's gonna take a long time. We're going to show flashes of greatness this season, and we're going to show some very very ugly play. It's going to be a roller coaster ride just as I predicted it would be last season, only this year will be called the Hurricane Katrina. Just enjoy the progress we make b/c there will be some.

don't judge Marbury by these preseason games, believe me! there is no reason for him to hog the spotlight in preseason and stun the developement of younger players who need to be developing when Marbury is already an established player. Once the season starts the Knicks will go back to being MArbury's team because that is the way they are going to try to win games

I'm not one that said we're competing for the East. I said anywhere between 38- 45 wins. It really can go either way. But regardless, it's going to take some time. If you expect that, then you really don't have reason to be worried. Look at the positives from last night. Frye and Lee continued to play solid. Ariza is showing flashes as well as Nate. Jerome played solid D downlow. Curry, when he's on, is unstoppable in terms of JUST SCORING. He is still pretty bad at everything else. This team just has to continue making progress together. I love the rookies so far. I think I'm pretty much making Frye my favorite player on the team now, followed by Lee.

It's gonna take some time though, so just sit back and enjoy the ride.

that's like having a newborn baby and worrying if they are going to college or not.