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Caseloads
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10/1/2005  10:20 AM
Berman, NYPost

October 1, 2005 -- The Knicks and Bulls continued serious discussions yesterday about a sign-and-trade for Chicago free-agent center Eddy Curry, sources said.
Curry has told friends the Knicks are still in the mix. The deadline for Curry to re-sign with the Bulls for their one-year, $5.1 million qualifying offer has been pushed back from today to Monday.

The holdup in a Knick-Bull deal is the Bulls' refusal to take one of the Knicks' two first-round picks next year. The Bulls prefer a young player added to the package, such as David Lee or Trevor Ariza.

Michael Sweetney and Tim Thomas have been offered in a variety of packages.

Curry's agent, Leon Rose, said: "There's been a lot of discussions the last 48 hours with the Bulls regarding a sign-and-trade."

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10/1/2005  10:23 AM
Who is in the deal?

I havent seen Lee play yet, but I have seen Ariza and I wouldnt want the Knicks to give Ariza up (with Mike Sweetney and Tim Thomas).

If we give up Ariza, Sweetney and Tim Thomas, we'd have to take back Antonio Davis (who is decent and I'd prefer Davis over Rose).

We could send Malik Rose, but he has a long contact and Chicago wants to be under the cap.
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10/1/2005  10:30 AM
what i took from the article is that its sweetney, and T.T., and their arguing over 1 of the 2 1st round draft picks next yr.
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10/1/2005  10:34 AM
Posted by DaMano718:

what i took from the article is that its sweetney, and T.T., and their arguing over 1 of the 2 1st round draft picks next yr.

If that's the case, then this deal is as good as done. Here comes Eddy!!!


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10/1/2005  10:35 AM
Trading Curry won’t be easy

http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/bulls.asp?id=100813

By Mike McGraw
Daily Herald Sports Writer
Posted Saturday, October 01, 2005

The Bulls may still be able to avoid a confrontation with center Eddy Curry over genetic testing.

The team spent the week trying to trade Curry, according to a league source. But dealing the restricted free agent will be difficult.

First, the Bulls must find a team willing to pay a salary that’s acceptable to Curry, knowing that his next contract will not be insured if he is forced to retire because of a heart condition.

The Bulls want to get something of value in return without ruining the salary-cap room they expect to have next summer. Besides all that, any deal is subject to complicated base-year compensation rules if Curry gets more than a 20 percent raise above the $3.9 million he made last year.

Today marks the deadline for Curry to accept the Bulls’ one-year qualifying offer of $5.14 million, but that date can be delayed all the way through March 1 by agreement of both parties.

It’s possible Curry will not sign any contract this weekend and sit tight while the Bulls continue to search for a trading partner. Once Curry puts his signature on a new contract with the Bulls, he cannot be traded for three months. A long-term deal that would guarantee Curry at least $19 million remains another option.

Bulls general manager John Paxson acknowledged Thursday there have been trade discussions regarding Curry. As recently as last Friday, Paxson said he had not heard from any teams interested in a sign-and-trade deal.

“There’s stuff out there, but it’s still very difficult,” Paxson said. “We’re running out of time.”

The New York Knicks are believed to have shown the most interest, though the Bulls would prefer to send the fourth-year center to a team in the Western Conference.

Paxson said he was never offered a package of Tim Thomas and Michael Sweetney for Curry, which was reported in the New York Post. Such a trade would not work under salary-cap rules without the Bulls adding two players to the mix. The Knicks don’t have many desirable players or contracts to trade.

Denver, Memphis and Portland are among the other teams that have spoken to the Bulls. Nuggets general manager Kiki Vandeweghe acknowledged interest in Curry, but no trade appeared imminent as of Friday evening.

“We have some interest,” Vandeweghe told the Rocky Mountain News. “You have 30 teams that like him as a player, but there’s not a lot we can do.”

If Curry does sign the qualifying offer, the two sides may be headed to arbitration. At issue is whether the Bulls have a right to demand that Curry take a DNA test to determine if he is at risk for hypertrophic cardiomyopathy.

“I don’t know how that process will work,” Paxson said. “We’ve looked into it and asked questions, but don’t have any answers yet.”

Paxson refused to say whether the Bulls would allow Curry to join practice if the team lost an arbitration hearing and could not require the DNA test.

In the meantime, guard Jannero Pargo agreed to terms on a one-year contract and the Bulls may still re-sign swingman Adrian Griffin, one of the team’s tri-captains last year, before training camp opens Tuesday.
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10/1/2005  10:35 AM



NOOOOOOOOOO!

I couldn't resist.

[Edited by - enyspree on 10-01-2005 10:36 AM]
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10/1/2005  10:35 AM
http://www.suntimes.com/output/bulls/cst-spt-bull01.html

Curry's agent looks to New York

October 1, 2005

BY LACY J. BANKS Staff Reporter

Eddy Curry's agent continued to lobby Friday for Bulls operations chief John Paxson to accept a trade offer from the New York Knicks, a team one source said wouldn't require Curry to take a controversial DNA test.

Curry, 22, and the Bulls might be headed for a precedent-setting arbitration over whether the team has the right to demand Curry take the genetic test. Curry's 2004-05 season was cut short after he was diagnosed with heart arrythmia. A heart specialist suggested Curry take the DNA test to determine if he is predisposed to a potentially fatal heart condition, although another expert cleared Curry to play.

Paxson has said he won't allow Curry to play without taking the test, while Curry's camp has said Curry will refuse.

Today was going to be the deadline for Curry to accept the Bulls' one-year, $5.14million qualifying offer, but the deadline has been extended to Monday.

The Knicks are willing to give up forwards Tim Thomas and Michael Sweetney and a No. 1 draft pick for Curry in a sign-and-trade deal, and New York will not require Curry to take a DNA test, a source told the Sun-Times.

Neither Paxson nor Knicks operations chief Isiah Thomas was available for comment, but Paxson was quoted in the Daily Southtown as saying the Knicks' offered a ''bizarre proposal.''

''The Knicks are willing to use the sign-and-trade to give Curry a six-year deal that would guarantee him $40 million but pay as much as $70 million with incentives over the life of the contract,'' the source said. ''And Isiah has told close friends that he would not require Eddy to take a DNA test to seal the multiyear deal.''

Curry is prepared to sign the qualifying offer if that's all that's available, said his agent, Leon Rose.

"But the trade offer that has been reported is a fair offer that we'd like to see the Bulls accept,'' Rose said. ''It's a way for both sides to receive fair compensation, make a clean break and avoid some possible ugly confrontations in the future.''

The ugliness already is surfacing.

"Eddy says he really doesn't want to play for the Bulls anymore,'' a close associate of Curry said. ''He feels the Bulls broke their promise to re-sign him when he was medically cleared to play again. He also believes the Bulls leaked information from his medical reports to give people the impression that something is seriously wrong with him if he doesn't take that DNA test.''

Curry could not be reached for comment, but he continues to work out five days a week under trainer Tim Grover at the WestLoop Athletic Club. Curry has trimmed down to 284 pounds and has been involved in contact scrimmages for a week.

''I had no choice,'' said Grover, whose policy is to keep players away from the media if they are not under contract. ''I couldn't afford to have him go into training camp behind in that area. There is a certain part of a player's conditioning that he can only get from scrimmaging with other players and banging with them. Otherwise, Eddy's in great shape.''

Several teammates have given Curry moral support.

"I personally worry for him because these are things beyond his control,'' said Antonio Davis, Bulls co-captain and the president of the players association. ''I believe [management has] a right to know how healthy a guy is before they sign him to a new contract worth a lot of money.

"But at the same time, there should be a limit as to how much your employer is entitled to know about your medical records. When you go beyond the standard medical exams all the players take and ask for a player's DNA, it's got to be up to the player to give it. The union will defend him all the way.''
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10/1/2005  10:36 AM
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/cs-050930bulls,1,1591552.story

Knicks continue to pursue Curry
But Paxson shuns sign-and-trade for Thomas, Sweetney

By Marlen Garcia
Tribune staff reporter

September 30, 2005, 10:17 PM CDT

Eddy Curry's agent continues to pursue a sign-and-trade for the Bulls' center, and apparently he will keep pushing for it right up to Monday night's deadline for qualifying offers.

Curry has until 11:59 p.m. Monday to accept the Bulls' offer of $5.14 million for the upcoming season, preparations for which open Tuesday with the start of training camp workouts. Originally, the cutoff date for qualifying offers was Saturday, but it was changed to coincide with a weekday. The Bulls can extend the deadline further at their discretion.

A source close to the negotiations said the Knicks still are offering to send Tim Thomas and Michael Sweetney, which is unsatisfactory to Bulls general manager John Paxson. Contracts for Thomas and Sweetney, valued this season at $13.5 million and $2.1 million, respectively, expire next spring. Paxson is said to be seeking a draft pick.

It seems unlikely that the parties will reach an agreement.

First, Paxson is reluctant to deal Curry to an Eastern Conference team, though he could be looking to avoid an ugly standoff between the team and player on DNA testing. Paxson did not respond to a message Friday night.

The Bulls are threatening to sit Curry unless he submits to a DNA test that could determine whether he is disposed to hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, a potentially fatal heart condition.

Curry's lawyer has said Curry will refuse the test, recommended by a top heart specialist last spring but whose need has been disputed by other experts.

Leon Rose, Curry's agent, said the team looking to acquire Curry won't ask him to submit to a genetic test.

"There's been a lot of discussion in the last few days regarding a sign-and-trade," Rose said. "There is a potential deal that is equitable to all parties and acceptable to Eddy and will avoid the potential conflict that lies ahead. It would be in everybody's best interest if that can happen. I'm hopeful the Bulls will do the right thing and the deal gets done."

All players undergo physical exams before practicing, and the Bulls' request for Curry's DNA is expected to be part of his health assessment. This means a confrontation is almost certain next week, and the matter probably will end up in arbitration.
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10/1/2005  10:55 AM
If we gave up Sweetney and Eddie Curry, his starting salary would be over 15 mm. That would be complete suicide to give a guy with heart problems and refuses to take a to see if he's gonna basically die soon or not (Well, not that extreme, but it's potential). Isiah, you can't run the business like that. Use you're freaking head man.
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10/1/2005  10:59 AM
Is Curry's laziness and lack of intrest sometimes be due to this hear condition?

I think Curry's skills offensively are unstoppable. He is unguardable when he gets it going. Dude is also athletic as hell for his size.

Who do we lose? Possibly Ariza? From what I saw in summer league, Ariza still has no jumpshot and no ability to create his own shot. "Q", Timmy and now Lee is still on the roster.

No way I trade Ariza and Lee in the same trade for Curry.....that's not a fair deal. If Paxson is sending Luol Deng to the Knicks then you are talking.

It seems like this Curry situation is very real. We'll see what happnens.
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10/1/2005  11:21 AM
Get Nocioni!!!!!!
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10/1/2005  11:34 AM
Posted by Redtowel:

Get Nocioni!!!!!!
yeah, nocioni is a bad @$$.

but seriously, ariza is good. he defends. he's young. he has hops. he's got length. how much of a jump shot do we need from the guy? just run and shoot. dunk. defend. rebound. steals. we need ariza.
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10/1/2005  12:10 PM
get it done! Lee, Ariza, both whatever!
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10/1/2005  12:17 PM
^ No Ariza. I'm OK with Lee.
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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10/1/2005  12:19 PM
Posted by Caseloads:
Posted by Redtowel:

Get Nocioni!!!!!!
yeah, nocioni is a bad @$$.

but seriously, ariza is good. he defends. he's young. he has hops. he's got length. how much of a jump shot do we need from the guy? just run and shoot. dunk. defend. rebound. steals. we need ariza.

If we had to give up Ariza for Curry knowing that 25 year old "Q" will take over as SF for the Knicks, I'd do it... During these times in the NBA, it's hard enough obtaining big men. Cuury is quick as a cat for his size and going against his opponent on the offensive side, he can be unstoppable.

Lineup might look like this:
pg Crawford 6 '5
sg Marbury 6'2
C James 7'0
Pf Curry 6' 11
Sf "Q"
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10/1/2005  12:28 PM
Giving up Ariza would be a bad move.

He most def. is our future.

The only reason to go after Curry right now is b/c we can FINALLY buy low and sell high. We don't have to give up the farm here...Isiah justs needs to sit tight and let Pax sweat this one out until Sunday night.
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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10/1/2005  12:53 PM
no ariza or lee.. if the bulls can't take the pick, then IT needs to walk away!!!
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10/1/2005  1:10 PM
Posted by bobs3304:

^ No Ariza. I'm OK with Lee.


thats what i'm saying...give them lee and a pick if we have too.
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10/1/2005  1:11 PM
Posted by tkf:

no ariza or lee.. if the bulls can't take the pick, then IT needs to walk away!!!


why? lee was the last pick in the 1st round... you dont think isiah could find another player like him next yr with a better pick?
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10/1/2005  2:33 PM
Posted by bobs3304:

He most def. is our future.
Thats a sad sad sad sad sad future for the New York Knicks. There is no chance in hell we win a championship if Ariza is the best player on the Knicks.

Ariza is pretty overrated/popular here on ultimate.
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