What is your opinion of the kind of impact Larry Brown will have on the Knicks?


They'll certainly play harder, and with the exception of Stephon Marbury, guys who resist Brown's program will sit. By moving Marbury to the shooting-guard position, however, Brown will replicate how he dealt with Allen Iverson. AI, remember, simply refused to be a pass-first point guard, so Brown simply surrendered, shifted Iverson to the No. 2 slot, and let him fire away and pass only under duress. Following the same blueprint with Marbury is the only alternative to trading him — which is a difficult undertaking since Marbury has little value to any other sensible franchise.

Otherwise, the Knicks' defense will be more coordinated than in recent memory, and will be extended to the time-line. Rookies won't play much. Practices will be strenuous. The likes of Maurice Taylor, Jerome James and Mike Sweetney WILL be in shape. Brown's ability to maneuver the Knicks into advantageous matchups, as well as his clock management, will be a vast improvement over his immediate predecessors.

Overall, the Knicks will experience success early in the season as their intensity catches opponents unaware. Then reality will set in. As the mid- to late-seasons losses mount, Brown's perpetual yipping and criticizing will increasingly alienate his players. The Marbury experiment will be a flop. Several disgruntled vets will not be able to contain their complaints about their lack of daylight. The Knicks will nevertheless battle for a playoff berth and most likely fall short.

In brief, Brown will have an enormous impact on the team, but the Knicks' sad-sack roster will create frustrations everywhere.

Who is Charley Rosen? I think his analysis sucks.

Posted by Silverfuel:

yea, this is basically an anti-Marbury rant

My thoughts exactly.

Fish I agree with you except I think Brown loves guys with extreme intensity. Not intensity. Extreme intensity. I think Nate and Lee may get minutes because of their effort and the lack of effort from TT etc. I think this rookies no play is being overblown. Larry Brown will not play rookies on a championship caliber team but he has shown in the past that when his team is not on that level he will play those that produce with effort.

Like so many sports "guru's" Mr. Rosen is regurgitating that which he has heard. Steph has tried to be a pass first pg and will listen to a man he respects and will be the pg LB wants. Steph will not stop putting up the ball but that will be when no one else is filling up the hole.

That is both my hope and belief. If I am wrong, you will see a blockbuster deal followed by Nate and JC to pg.

Chek back at year end.

[Edited by - TheSage on 09-24-2005 08:28 AM]

I don't believe he's really had any top flight rookies, so this may be more a result of circumstance than some bias he has against them. On the Philly team he had a good amount of young players and they did actually play, tho not an extreme amount. AI was in his 2nd season Tim Thomas was a rookied and he avg'd 11ppg 3.7reb. Stackhouse was traded for Ratliff and they added Joe Smith & Brian Shaw. Rookie Larry Hughes played 19.8mins and then 20.4 in the next season. A couple of years later he played rookie center Todd MacCulloch who did well. He also played Speedy Claxton as a rookie 22.8 mins a game.

I'm sure there are other young guys who he's played over his long career. On this team we've got more mature young players who play hard and with energy on the defensive end and I can see him liking how they play in practice and giving them some PT.



[Edited by - NIXLUVA on 09-24-2005 8:12 PM]

Posted by fishmike:

FYI: who was the last player that was "developed" under Larry Brown? We have seen him turn around the careers of a lot of vets but what rookies have flourished under him? I cant think of any off hard to be honest... anyone? A little help?

Tayshaun Prince

Prince was pretty good under Carlisle, but I didnt realize he was there by AI's sophmore season. Thats good to know.

I don't believe he's really had any top flight rookies, so this may be more a result of circumstance than some bias he has against them.

that was kind of my gut feeling also. LB never had bigtime raw talent to really have an impact on. rather young blue collar types like McKie and Kenny Thomas.