can some1 PLEASE post todays insider...THANKS

found this on the realgm board (with thanks to dag63 for showing it to me)


Although athletic potential alone doesn't indicate whether a top draft prospect will turn into an NBA star (paging Harold Miner), it certainly doesn't hurt a player's stock.

NBA Insider has obtained the results from the Chicago pre-draft physical testing of 83 prospects, including most of the players projected as lottery picks.

The test revealed that St. Bonaventure point guard J.R. Bremer, who can reportedly bench press 350 pounds despite being just 6-foot-2, was ranked by the NBA as the top athlete tested.

Bremer set a Chicago pre-draft record when he bench pressed 185 pounds 24 times during the physical. He also recorded a 35.5 inch vertical jump and had high scores in 3/4 court sprint and lane agility drills.

"Other top performers included Maybyner Nene Hilario (ranked No. 2), Maryland's Chris Wilcox (No. 5), Duke's Jay Williams (No. 7) and Amare Stoudemire (No. 12)."

Second-round prospects Tamar Slay (No. 3), Matt Barnes (No. and Shaw's Ronald Murray (No. 10) also tested well.

Hilario finished fourth in the lane agility drills with a 10.73 seconds time; eighth in the bench press drill (16 reps of 185 pounds); 13th in the 3/4 court sprints with a 3.19 seconds time; and 25th in the vertical jump with a 34 inch vertical.

Wilcox finished fourth in the bench press drill (20 reps of 185 pounds); 10th in the 3/4 court sprints with a 3.16 seconds time; and 22nd in the vertical jump with a 34.5 inch vertical. He tested only average in the lane agility drils with a 11.43 time.

Williams finished first in the lane agility drills with a 10.34 seconds time; third in the 3/4 court spring with a 3.09 seconds time; and 13th in the vertical jump with a 36 inch vertical. He completed 10 reps of 185 pounds in the bench press drill.

Several lottery prospects, including Stanford's Curtis Borchardt (No. 74 overall), UConn's Caron Butler (No. 68) and Indiana's Jared Jeffries (No. 63) were ranked at the bottom of the prospects tested.
Other top prospects like Cincinnati's Steve Logan (No. 75), Fresno State's Melvin Ely (No. 70) and Illinois Frank Williams (No. 64) also fared poorly.

Borchardt finished "last" on the 3/4 court sprint with a 3.63 seconds time; and third to last with a 27 inch vertical jump. Caron Butler could manage only two reps of 185 pounds in the bench press drill and finished poorly in the 3/4 court sprints and lane agility drills. Jeffries had a very poor showing in the 3/4 court sprints and was just average on every other event."

Posted by nykfan4ever:

yea i saw that too...but thanks anyway...very interesting article bc i thought that Butler would be great at these drills...hopefully Layden sees that Borchardt HAS NO ATHLETIC ABILITY(and no talent) and he doesnt draft him. And its no surprise to me that nene and Wilcox are top 5 in athletic ability...THEY'RE GONNA BE MONSTERS!!

brenda(n) haywood could only bench 185 pounds twice and he's a coveted center in the league.

I don't understand how nba prospects can't bench 185 pounds more than a few times. I'm 5'9" and i bench 210 for 10 reps.

Hilario's overall rank was 2 out of 83, while Wilcox was 5 out of 83. Both solid, as for who is stronger, Hilario ranked 7th overall with 16 reps of 185 pounds and Wilcox ranked 4th with 20 reps. Vertical leap in inches, for Hilario it was 34 and for Wilcox it was 34.5 For agiliity, Hilario finished in at least the top 5 (they don't show a ranking) but he had 10.73, making him quicker then Dajuan Wagner, Qyntel Woods, Frank Williams, and other guards. Wagner, Butler, Borchardt, and Woods all did pretty poor.