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djsunyc
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9/6/2005  10:30 AM
Biggest Disappointments Of The Last Five Years
6th September, 2005 - 9:06 am

By Aaron Bronsteter

RealGM has been around for five years as of August and leading up to the season, I will be compiling the Standing 10 column based around the best of the best (or worst, in this case) of the last five years. Happy anniversary RealGM!

10) The 2004-2005 Minnesota Timberwolves

After finally getting past the first round of the playoffs, Kevin Garnett and the Timberwolves looked like a brand new team. In 2003-2004, the Timberwolves won more than 70% of their games and with the leadership of Garnett, paired with the veteran prowess of both Sam Cassell and Latrell Sprewell, the shooting touch of Wally Szczerbiak and the additional help from role players like Troy Hudson and Mark Madsen, the Timberwolves looked like one of the best up and coming teams in the league.

When 2004-2005 rolled around, people expected big things from the T-Wolves, but the team’s chemistry was off. The Wolves ended up not making the playoffs, firing veteran coach Flip Saunders, who had one of the longest tenures in the league and had front office guru Kevin McHale take the bench.

In the offseason, the Wolves traded Sam Cassell, lost out on Michael Finley, rid themselves of Latrell Sprewell and look to be building from the bottom-up, seemingly to the chagrin of Garnett.

9) Kwame Brown

Looking like one of the most promising high school prospects of all-time, Kwame Brown was selected with the first overall pick of the Michael Jordan era Washington Wizards . Thus far, Brown has averaged a woeful 7.5 points-per-game and 5.5 rebounds-per-game.
In his rookie year, Brown was berated by arguably the best player to ever grace the hard wood (Jordan) and put to shame in front of his teammates. Brown, despite showing flashes of skill every now and then with some pretty post moves, would seemingly never recover.
Brown will get a fresh start in Los Angeles under the tutelage of arguably the best basketball coach of all-time, Phil Jackson, who has been known to make everyone he coaches into a better player. The Lakers are taking a big gamble and are hoping it pays off.

8) The Jay Williams Bike Accident

Selected with the 2nd overall pick in the NBA Draft after Yao Ming, Jay Williams had a promising NBA career ahead of him. Unfortunately, Williams decided to take his career for granted and try his luck with a motorcycle. Williams would get into an accident that could have potentially paralyzed him. Luckily for Williams, he was able start rehabbing from his accident in recent months and may be able to play on an NBA court again one day.

The Bulls decided to release Williams from his rookie contract and paid him despite the fact that Williams breached his contract by riding on the motorcycle to begin with.

7) The New York Knicks

Having the highest payroll in basketball and one of the highest in professional sports altogether, one would think that the Knicks could at least compete for the playoffs. However, the Knicks have not had a record above .500 since 2000-2001.

After the horrific Scott Layden era, filled with horrible missteps and the unbearable long-term signings of players who had a single good season in the pros, the Knicks have still yet to improve.

The current philosophy being utilized by hall-of-famer Isiah Thomas is to simply trade for whatever talent is available, despite their position and pray for the best. Thus far, it has yet to work, but at least Thomas was able to trade for fan favorite and hometown star Stephon Marbury to run the Knicks to keep the fans in the seats. Along with the youthful Jamal Crawford and sharp shooting Quentin Richardson, it looks to be a somewhat promising year for the Knicks. And by somewhat promising, I mean that they may actually come close to making the playoffs.


6) The fall of the International player

After all of the work that David Stern did to attempt to make the league into an International phenomenon, players from overseas have taken a huge stock hit in the last few years. Year after year of continuous busts are likely the cause of this downfall, mostly attributed to high lottery selections like Darko Milicic and Nicoloz Tskitishvili, both deemed to be the two top prospects in Europe.

To add to this problem, both Fran Vasquez and Roko Ukic opted to play in Europe rather than for the teams that drafted them into the NBA. If players are actually going to turn their backs on the NBA in favour of more money overseas, what will happen to the International craze that floated around the league over the past few years?

5) The Return of Michael Jordan

“Why Michael? Why?“

That is likely a quote that stemmed from Michael Jordan’s decision to return to the NBA and play for the Washington Wizards . Jordan was running on his last tank of gas and could barely get above the rim any longer.
Thankfully, Jordan’s legacy was not soiled by his return and most people seem to simply block his two seasons with the Wizards from his mind, hoping that they never see him or clips of him in blue and silver ever again.

4) Player trade demands

Why is it that all of a sudden a player can simply ask to be traded and get his wish? That’s what many were wondering when Vince Carter was able to weasel his way out of Toronto for practically nothing in return. All of a sudden, players as menial as Jimmy Jackson are able to demand a trade and have their wish granted to them.

Whatever happened to the phrase “suck it up and shut up”? These players are making millions of dollars and all of a sudden they call the shots around the league. This new trend is simply sickening and will hopefully subside in the coming years.

3) The Crumbling of the Lakers

Kobe and Shaq or Shaq and Kobe? That was the question that nobody wanted to stick around and find out the answer to. Instead, Mitch Kupchak unloaded Shaq for three players, one of which has underachieved, one of which was released via the amnesty clause and the other was traded for Kwame Brown.

This is what happened to a team that seemed to be unstoppable until the team-oriented Pistons dismantled them in five games despite being the unanimous underdog in the series.

Now Shaq is living it up in Miami, with Pat Riley doing whatever it takes to get talent around him, while Kobe has been reunited with Phil Jackson and Kupchak has pretty much sat on his hands for most of the summer.

2) The Pacers versus Pistons battle

In one of the most disappointing moments in basketball history, a huge brawl broke out at a Pacers and Pistons game in Detroit. This was no ordinary brawl, as fans got involved, throwing cups, chairs and beer at players after Ron Artest sifted through the fans at the Palace of Auburn Hills to find the fan that pelted him with a cup.

This prompted other players to get involved, hitting fans and anyone who stood in their way and resulted in the suspension of Artest, Ben Wallace, Jermaine O’Neal, Stephen Jackson and an array of other players in one of the nastiest moments in NBA history.

1) The Kobe Bryant case

When an NBA superstar is cast into the spotlight, it is mainly for their rim-rattling jams or thrilling buzzer beaters. However, in this situation, Kobe Bryant was thrust into the spotlight after being accused of sexually assaulting a teenager while seeking medical advice in Colorado.

Bryant was placed under the microscope for over a year due to these accusations, which he would eventually be acquitted from in one of the most unforgettable court cases in sports history.

Bryant’s reputation and superstar appeal suffered mightily and will likely never reach the heights that he had attained years prior as a member of the Lakers’ dynasty with Shaquille O’Neal. If that wasn’t enough, Bryant was cited as the reason for the downfall of the Lakers and the departures of both Shaq and Phil Jackson.
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9/6/2005  10:39 AM
This is a hater's way of being a "compassionate conservative" towards the Knicks. We can add one more idiot to the "doubt now, eat crow later" list. I just dismiss jokers like this, knowing that they are usually the same putrid hypocrites that will jump on the bandwagon the first chance they get.
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9/6/2005  10:43 AM
I liked that he was unable to dismiss Q Rich and jamal crawford...I'm expecting tears in the nets eyes when marbs/Q/Craw are better than JKidd/Vince/RJeff this year.
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9/6/2005  11:08 AM
Posted by rvhoss:

I liked that he was unable to dismiss Q Rich and jamal crawford...I'm expecting tears in the nets eyes when marbs/Q/Craw are better than JKidd/Vince/RJeff this year.
i'd be shocked if that occurs. the kool-aid is strong with this young one...


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9/6/2005  11:10 AM
haven't you noticed.

hey, I took the cowboys on the chin and this year, they've learned from last year's mistakes, fill needs not seats. I think we may have done that, last year all we said was we needed shot blocking, youth and depth at the 2.

I'm looking for a great run at the 8th spot, and possibly the 3 spot (not sure of our division strength), I like it better with everyone thinking we suck, more fun to root.

[Edited by - rvhoss on 09-06-2005 11:12 AM]
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9/6/2005  12:49 PM
Posted by HARDCOREKNICKSFAN:

This is a hater's way of being a "compassionate conservative" towards the Knicks. We can add one more idiot to the "doubt now, eat crow later" list. I just dismiss jokers like this, knowing that they are usually the same putrid hypocrites that will jump on the bandwagon the first chance they get.
HC... which part of this isnt true? Except for the "somewhat promising year" coming up which is opinion whats wrong with the rest of it?
The current philosophy being utilized by hall-of-famer Isiah Thomas is to simply trade for whatever talent is available, despite their position and pray for the best. Thus far, it has yet to work, but at least Thomas was able to trade for fan favorite and hometown star Stephon Marbury to run the Knicks to keep the fans in the seats. Along with the youthful Jamal Crawford and sharp shooting Quentin Richardson, it looks to be a somewhat promising year for the Knicks. And by somewhat promising, I mean that they may actually come close to making the playoffs.

"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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9/6/2005  1:03 PM
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by HARDCOREKNICKSFAN:

This is a hater's way of being a "compassionate conservative" towards the Knicks. We can add one more idiot to the "doubt now, eat crow later" list. I just dismiss jokers like this, knowing that they are usually the same putrid hypocrites that will jump on the bandwagon the first chance they get.
HC... which part of this isnt true? Except for the "somewhat promising year" coming up which is opinion whats wrong with the rest of it?
The current philosophy being utilized by hall-of-famer Isiah Thomas is to simply trade for whatever talent is available, despite their position and pray for the best. Thus far, it has yet to work, but at least Thomas was able to trade for fan favorite and hometown star Stephon Marbury to run the Knicks to keep the fans in the seats. Along with the youthful Jamal Crawford and sharp shooting Quentin Richardson, it looks to be a somewhat promising year for the Knicks. And by somewhat promising, I mean that they may actually come close to making the playoffs.

The current philosophy being utilized by hall-of-famer Isiah Thomas is to simply trade for whatever talent is available, despite their position and pray for the best.

This is bullshyt. This fool just wants to paint with the same broad hater brush as schmucks like Chad Ford.
He says it like all Isiah does is try to hoard whomever like he has no clue. The idiot who wrote that list has no goddamn clue.

Along with the youthful Jamal Crawford and sharp shooting Quentin Richardson, it looks to be a somewhat promising year for the Knicks. And by somewhat promising, I mean that they may actually come close to making the playoffs.

DJ, tell me you don't see the snot in that last comment. This guy hates our team, and this is just a feeble attempt at sounding objective.

If the piece was objective and without snotty sarcasm, a better case could be made for him, although he messed up anyway when making that first comment I quoted.
It'll be a cold day in hell when I agree with some hater's snotnosed commentary criticizing my team.


Another season, and more adversity to persevere through. We will get the job done, even BETTER than last year. GO KNICKS!
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9/6/2005  1:10 PM
Posted by HARDCOREKNICKSFAN:

This is a hater's way of being a "compassionate conservative" towards the Knicks. We can add one more idiot to the "doubt now, eat crow later" list. I just dismiss jokers like this, knowing that they are usually the same putrid hypocrites that will jump on the bandwagon the first chance they get.

Your bravado was just as strong last year and I don't remember you eating any crow. In fact, while it was im sure for reasons valid that you disappeared on us most of last year, especially in the end, its very sophmoric to rant like a 12 year old about a team that has sucked for 5 years and has yet to accomplish anything on the court. eventually, we will succeed and yes there will be many bandwagon jumpers.

Any critic of the team is justified at this point. Isiah has produced the intangable hope.

Now my critique of that real GM blurb would be the ommission of our coach. In my book, the only valid tangable hope for the future is that Larry stay healthy and forge a strong team foundation.

We are rebuilding. We are on the right track. ANd for the first time in many a moon we have hope.

And yes, We have been an overpriced Joke for the last 5 years. But we have acomplished nothing until the wins and losses tell the tale!

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9/6/2005  1:53 PM
Posted by HARDCOREKNICKSFAN:

DJ, tell me you don't see the snot in that last comment. This guy hates our team, and this is just a feeble attempt at sounding objective.

hardcore, my man, you truly are HARD CORE!!!

i can understand your reaction based on the pure biased criticisms from our local degenerates in the papers but i don't think what this guy said is so bad but i don't know the writer and he may be a hater as well.

you sound like you just snorted up a gram of coke and can't stop shakin' waiting for the season to start. may i suggest perusing through the jessica alba thread again - it works wonders for me...
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9/6/2005  1:56 PM
Posted by HARDCOREKNICKSFAN:

This is a hater's way of being a "compassionate conservative" towards the Knicks. We can add one more idiot to the "doubt now, eat crow later" list. I just dismiss jokers like this, knowing that they are usually the same putrid hypocrites that will jump on the bandwagon the first chance they get.

I agree, the funny thing is that if any other team were going to start a trio of marbury, crawford and Q, they would be projected as a treacherous trio, unstoppable and poised for a big year, but right now they are on the knicks, the object of everyone's hatred, so therefore a promising year for us is almost making the playoffs.. what a joke!


Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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9/6/2005  2:00 PM
I agree with hardcore, you can just sense the snottyness in those comments, some may say it is deserving since we have been bad the past few years, but we were never great either, has our fall from grace been anyworse than the lakers? or the celtics? yet we get cheap shot at all the time.. it is sickening...
Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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9/6/2005  2:37 PM
the snottyness comes because its NY where we have the mecha of bball and the "most knowledgable fans" if there is any snottyness at all.

We won 33 games last year. I think saying the Knicks will make the playoffs or fight for a spot recognizes a pretty substantial improvement. The Cavs had 42 wins and missed the playoffs last year. If you have a 9 game improvement over 1 year thats pretty damn good.

Do that 2 years in a row and your a 50 win team. But this guy is a hater?
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9/6/2005  2:53 PM
I didn't drink the kool aid last year, and I'll keep the kool aid in a thurmace until I see some results. It's like what the writer says, we have promise, and that's just about it. I LOVE the Knicks beyond belief and I've been saying that all Summer as hhave others like fishmike, djsunyc, Briggs. What is so haterish about this? It's realistic. We are not in championship contention, and this is what we want, so what is there to get overly enthusiastic about? Lets see this team take whatever team to 6 or 7 games in ROUND 2, and then I'll start chugging the kool aid, but only if we continue to show signs of moving foward.
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9/6/2005  3:02 PM
besides, they know we are a tough city and can take the criticism. I don't think even LA could withstand the abuse we take...and no city like new york likes to feed a heaping serving of crow either.

come on YANKEES!!!! err...I mean, GO KNICKS!!!!
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9/6/2005  3:43 PM
Posted by Nalod:
Posted by HARDCOREKNICKSFAN:

This is a hater's way of being a "compassionate conservative" towards the Knicks. We can add one more idiot to the "doubt now, eat crow later" list. I just dismiss jokers like this, knowing that they are usually the same putrid hypocrites that will jump on the bandwagon the first chance they get.

Your bravado was just as strong last year and I don't remember you eating any crow. In fact, while it was im sure for reasons valid that you disappeared on us most of last year, especially in the end, its very sophmoric to rant like a 12 year old about a team that has sucked for 5 years and has yet to accomplish anything on the court. eventually, we will succeed and yes there will be many bandwagon jumpers.

Nalod, haven't we been over this? Do you recall? If not, then I suggest perusing thru the archives circa June/July 2005. I won't even bother wasting my time breaking that down again. In fact, if you want to be specific, there was no real need for me to eat Crow, only because I didn't expect the injuries to hurt us that bad. So when you hope that your team does well, is that as juvenille a rant? I am not talking about any old team, I am referring to the Knicks. Stop sounding like it's any old team. If representing for my team is wrong, then I don't want to be right.

Any critic of the team is justified at this point. Isiah has produced the intangable hope.

Like any fan who voices love for the Knicks aren't?

Now my critique of that real GM blurb would be the ommission of our coach. In my book, the only valid tangable hope for the future is that Larry stay healthy and forge a strong team foundation.

We are rebuilding. We are on the right track. ANd for the first time in many a moon we have hope.

And yes, We have been an overpriced Joke for the last 5 years. But we have acomplished nothing until the wins and losses tell the tale!

Well it seems like I'm not alone in my opinion. TKF and DJ are right there with me! That's right, stay optimistic fellas! All Knicks, all the way!!!

...and DJ,

hardcore, my man, you truly are HARD CORE!!!

i can understand your reaction based on the pure biased criticisms from our local degenerates in the papers but i don't think what this guy said is so bad but i don't know the writer and he may be a hater as well.

you sound like you just snorted up a gram of coke and can't stop shakin' waiting for the season to start. may i suggest perusing through the jessica alba thread again - it works wonders for me...

Damn right I am HARDCORE, and it's true that I can't wait for the season to start. It just erks me when I read snott-assed remarks about my team, whether from established haters or so-called fans.

I keep the eyes on the prize, though. KNINCKS, Baby!!








Another season, and more adversity to persevere through. We will get the job done, even BETTER than last year. GO KNICKS!
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9/6/2005  4:30 PM


Just go ahead and blurb it out!

"I pity the fool! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr"

Hardcore, you bark is worse than your bite, but I have come to dig your act!

No, I don't archive back to prove a point. If Im wrong, your words good enough for me. Who's got that kind of time.

By the way, I can throw up a picture very quickly!



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9/6/2005  5:00 PM
LOL U love those pics! You gotta tell Martin to put the pic button on the quick reply.

Mr. T.... LOL, well since we're online, we can all only bark.
I pity the fool who hates on my Knicks! (as fans, shouldn't that be all of us?)
Another season, and more adversity to persevere through. We will get the job done, even BETTER than last year. GO KNICKS!
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9/6/2005  5:10 PM
Posted by HARDCOREKNICKSFAN:

I pity the fool who hates on my Knicks! (as fans, shouldn't that be all of us?)
agreed!
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