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knicks1248
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8/26/2005  7:25 PM
Lets face it, The guy is in a contract year, played lousy for most of last season and is over due to have a full potential season. I want to say keep him, but he's been such a tease for most of his career.

I'm afraid this guy will get traded and have an allstar like season. But then with 14mill to trade with, what can you honestly get for this guy, a massive dissapointment as far as for filling his potetial.
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8/26/2005  7:48 PM
I think TT's gonna have a good year this year...I dont wanna make excuses for him but he went through some tough and tragic stuff last year in the beginning of the season and also this is his contract year so I believe this year he'll be ready to go and I think he will flourish under LB....and if he has a great year (thats a big IF) maybe we can re-sign to a much smaller contract
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8/26/2005  7:51 PM
the absolute best i can imagine from TT is a 16/4 type season...Quentin Richardson is easily good for that & then some if given starter's minutes...i say we let TT walk if he can't be traded & who cares what he does in another uniform...he's been a complete disappointment since he's been here, & i don't imagine that changing, Larry Brown or no Larry Brown.
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8/26/2005  7:54 PM
He'll have an above-average year this season IMO, but will get traded @ the deadline. I say nah to keeping him beyond this year, due to the strong possibility if making an improvement @ that position. Even if we don't trade him, we can benefit capwise from his $14M coming off.
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8/26/2005  8:08 PM


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8/28/2005  6:04 AM
Posted by knicks1248:

Lets face it, The guy is in a contract year, played lousy for most of last season and is over due to have a full potential season. I want to say keep him, but he's been such a tease for most of his career.

I'm afraid this guy will get traded and have an allstar like season. But then with 14mill to trade with, what can you honestly get for this guy, a massive dissapointment as far as for filling his potetial.


i think this tease stuff is malarky. the guy plays well. if he just produces what he did when he first joined the knicks i'll be happy. everyone knows why tim played lousy the first half of last season. so no need to rehash it.
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8/28/2005  3:23 PM
All this "I think Tim Thomas will finally play good this year" stuff is not new. It has happened every year on every team he has played on. It's like when Lucy pulls the football away from Charlie Brown every time. He deserves it because he keeps on believing in Lucy when he shouldn't.

I hope TT plays GREAT until we trade him. I don't care how good he becomes after that. I am done waiting for him to be the player he can.

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8/28/2005  4:01 PM
My guess is that I'll hate him....
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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8/28/2005  5:36 PM
Posted by bobs3304:

My guess is that I'll hate him....





tim is a good knick. just gotta accept what he brings to the table (which is good production imo) instead of saying ok give me more or you suck.
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8/28/2005  6:09 PM
Good production, eh?



No further questions your honor...


DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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8/28/2005  6:39 PM
It would make sense to play Tim Thomas a limited role at PF. When we want to play fast break offense or when we want to open up the court with 3pt shooting. Have Marbury or Nate at driving and penitrating either kicking it out to 3pt shooters like Crawford/Nate-Richardson-TT at the 2-3-4. TT would also force the PF to come out of the paint for the guards to do more damage. Frye could even knock down the 15-20ft and take the center out of the paint. That lineup could be used for a stretch of games.

I think there will be another move though before the season stars so its earley to figure out how all the players will be used. Who will get time and not etc..
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8/28/2005  6:53 PM
It would make sense to play Tim Thomas a limited role at PF.
I agree; limit him to PF in WNBA games only
just gotta accept what he brings to the table (which is good production imo)
TT was basically the worst starting SF in the NBA last year. No starter had close to as bad defense as his was

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 08-28-2005 6:54 PM]
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8/28/2005  8:36 PM
yep, PF a bunch early when they bring in craw/nate.
16/4 (basically what we saw from him last march)

I think unless sweets morphs into barkley, he's gone.

TT has won a couple of games for us last year
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=250213018
NEW YORK (AP) -- Tim Thomas got such a lucky bounce on the final shot, all he could do was laugh when the ball dropped through.

and had some monster games as well (35 points v. lakers, 6 threes vs Atlanta)

http://www.nba.com/games/20050224/PHINYK/recap.html

I think him and marbs have a great chemistry:
http://www.nba.com/games/20050228/LALNYK/recap.html

I'm expecting big things, but looking at his numbers, timmy is consistent in wins and losses, so he's not going to be the difference maker, but as long as he's able to contribut to the 5 or 6 huge games and wins, last year there were 4 good examples:

3/18 win over hawks (23 points, 5 assists)
3/6 win over the warriors (25 pts/8 boards)
2/28 win over lakers (35 points, 4 boards)
2/24 win over sixers (27 points, 3 steals, 3 assists)

and give it his all in losses:
4/17 loss to hawks (26 points, 8 assists, 5 boards)

we're going to be all right.

But that's just MHO.

[Edited by - rvhoss on 08-28-2005 8:37 PM]
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8/28/2005  8:39 PM
To me, TT has no future with the Knicks, and doesn't deserve to play a role this year. And the league isn't stupid. If they trade for TT, it's purely for his expiring contract and not for the player himself, no matter how he plays, b/c at this point, I say the league pretty much knows he's just playing for a contract if he plays well at all this season. Hence, I say his expiring contract will pretty much have the same value no matter how much he plays. He has officially become a BAD PLAYER and we have no need to give him a major role this season. Giving him major minutes would be assinine.
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8/28/2005  9:30 PM
He's an above average player that is overpaid.

his realgm ranking is 221...that's better than...
James Posey 224
nazr mohammed 255
Eric Snow 279
michael olowokandi 286
kwame brown 266
brian grant 370
allan houston 242
christian laettner 275
alonzo mourning 278
dikembe mutombo 243
clarence weatherspoon 415

the list goes on...

so, according to RealGM, he's slghtly above average, but still better than others mentioned on this board.

[Edited by - rvhoss on 08-28-2005 9:32 PM]
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8/28/2005  9:31 PM
Posted by rvhoss:

He's an above average player that is overpaid.
Then why does the SF he's guarding shoot 55% against him, score 2 more points, dish out 1 more assist, and grab 2 more rebounds per 48 min than TT? He basically gets out-played by his opponent in all aspects of the game!
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8/28/2005  9:33 PM
I didn't say he was a stopper, I said he was above average.
Just because he's not playing up to his salary, doesn't mean he sucks. Blame the Bucks (pun intended)

People say the same about H20, Glenn Robinson and everyother player from that era of overpaying.

Ignoring the salary, he's above average.

[Edited by - rvhoss on 08-28-2005 9:34 PM]
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8/28/2005  9:35 PM
Posted by rvhoss:

I didn't say he was a stopper, I said he was above average.
[Edited by - rvhoss on 08-28-2005 9:34 PM]
If above average means getting outplayed by the man your guarding in all aspects of the game, I sure hope we don't get any more "above average" players!
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8/28/2005  9:36 PM
some tim thomas stats:

03/04 - 23 games 31 mins 15.8 ppg 4.8 rebs 45% FG 40.6% 3PT
04/05 - 71 games 27 mins 12.0 ppg 3.3 rebs 44% FG 40.9% 3PT

04/05 split even further:
Pre All Star - 44 games 26.6 mins 10.3 ppg 3.3 rebs 41% FG 37% 3PT
Post All Star- 27 games 28.6 mins 14.7 ppg 3.3 rebs 48% FG 45% 3PT
Bonn1997
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8/28/2005  9:36 PM
Posted by rvhoss:

He's an above average player that is overpaid.

his realgm ranking is 221...that's better than...
James Posey 224
nazr mohammed 255
Eric Snow 279
michael olowokandi 286
kwame brown 266
brian grant 370
allan houston 242
christian laettner 275
alonzo mourning 278
dikembe mutombo 243
clarence weatherspoon 415

the list goes on...

so, according to RealGM, he's slghtly above average, but still better than others mentioned on this board.

[Edited by - rvhoss on 08-28-2005 9:32 PM]
Does that take into account defense? Does it take into account whether the player gives up more points than he scores, gives up more rebounds than he gets, etc.?


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